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Why Ensign Haskell appeared out of nowhere in "Where Silence Has Lease" to replace Wesley, for the sole sake of being Nagilum's first victim. Well-acted, but there's not even a syllable of dialogue to suggest why Wesley had to run all of a sudden between scenes? Okay, maybe in the 24th century he didn't need to remember to take his dose of medication or to go down to the bathroom on deck 13 for a pee break or whatever, or even to check up on a class experiment as that trope would have some recurring value as set up in the previous story "The Child". It's a nitpick, but one that doesn't detract from the overall score given the story's presentation as well as good acting by Charles Douglass for what is technically a small (but significant and highly important) role as foil for Nagilum's experiments.
What the hell happened to O'Brien's Cello playing?
It's too bad they didn't have a string quartet scene in Quark's.
It was referenced in DS9. (In "SHADOWPLAY", he tells Jake that his dad wanted him to be a musician, and that he became good at playing the cello.)
Considering he said he was bored to death on the Enterprise and got excited when a malfunction occured, he likely had a LOT of time on his hands, which is why we saw him play on TNG several times.
But on DS9, he didn't really have time for that. And the point when he did have downtime, he had become friends with Bashir and they started their various activities: racquetball, darts, WWII battles, The Alamo, etc.
No. I especially like the Enterprise E's sleek profile.
To me the D looks like an awkward duck but I love the Enterprise E.
What don't you like about them?
"Time Squared" always had viewers wondering if Q was behind it all. Apparently, Q was, and this was to be a lead-in for 'Q Who' of all episodes (!!!) but Gene Roddenberry stepped in and demanded Q be removed, fearing overuse of the character. The result? It's an episode that's between confusing while showing the sheer number of unknowns in the galaxy and IMHO is stronger as a result.
"D" = depending on camera angle, it looked either great, awkward, or in one or two angles it could be ugly (but it's outer space and there's no single plane of focus to look at, so the "ugly angles" I've quickly learned to embrace, unlike my ex.) I've grown to truly love the design since 1987, even though it's harder to ignore the scale between it and other ships brought in to fly next to it thanks to the window sizes sticking out. (The novelty of separation also should have been used more in the series...)
"E" = an amalgamation of the "D" with the "A" because it's going to be for the big screen and reusing the same old 6' model just wasn't going to fly (it had to be new, and fresh). It is more aerodynamic, even though that doesn't apply as much in outer space. The nacelles have the right look of art deco and the Bussard* collectors now have that spangly sparkly glow long absent since the OG 1966 model, but the "E" somehow doesn't feel as iconic or original. Worse, the shuttle bay is rarely brought up or used (or even remembered given dialogue in "First Contact"!), and the far rear/aft (the OG Enterprise's shuttlecraft bay) is now (and likely just) a large cargo bay door (if not the most blatant reminder they're coasting on the "A".) The nacelles, by now, had fan theories about their size reducing for each new ship iteration/class and now they're big and long and skinny again, and not in a way that makes you think "Well, that mitigates the warp 5 problem". Quite the contrary, in fact. Not to mention, the underside shots (where "D" can look "ugly") look truly ugly as it's just an upturned flat pancake griddle down there with no detail. The "D" had detail and a tangible third dimension.
Now if the "E" design came out in 1987, we'd have the best of both worlds. Then again, re-reading my novellas, the longer one accorded the "E" suggests I don't like it as much and... yeah, that's the case.
* Fun aside: When not uppercase, "bussard" was about to be corrected to "buzzard" by the spellchecker and it was too amusing not to make a footnote out of.
Hey the Buzzard collectors are used in atmospheric flight to collect buzzards for cooking in the galley. the D does have one somewhere
I think D is a bit too top heavy for me. I have a toy version of it sitting in my living room that looks okay, but in some shots on the show I’m like “this would tip over in gravity.”
E I think is a number of things. The nacelles are too stylized in comparison to any previous Enterprise and it looks too sports car-ish. I just never cared for its design and it seems that later Enterprises follow its look. I think I’d feel differently if it looked more like the NX-01, still a bit gritty with parts that feel familiar.
I guess the saucer of the D would have to be pretty oversized... the thing is basically a small town in space, complete with homes, schools, a watering hole, an arboretum, and even a dolphin habitat.
This is an oldie but a goodie and just shows how big the ship is. The square on the thumbnail is the whole compliment of people standing on the hull to show you its size.
I think the latter is healthier. As much as I love TNG and its enlightened future, it did feel a bit stuck up at times around music and poetry. And when ten people come for the live music does that mean no one is interested or the plebs aren't invited?
But I know Snodgrass tried to counter that with poker games.
The E I don't mind... but the D... the D... wash your mouth out with soap!
I only remember strings in two episodes, but don't remember O'Brien playing:
1) Picard hears Mozart while a ballerina dances in the cargo hold during Where No Man...
2) Data and others play in a quartet in a redressed Ten Forward in Sarek.
When did we see O'Brien playing? Thanks.
Or Keiko's clarinet playing. (TNG's In Theory) As much as I'd have liked seeing the Enterprise top 3 officers have a trombone (Riker) flute (Picard) & oboe (Data) trio, it's almost tragic we never saw Miles & Keiko have a cello & clarinet duet. Both of those groupings would sound great
Interesting side note: Data can probably play any instrument. He has however only been shown playing, violin, oboe & guitar. Oboe was shown only in In Theory, guitar was only in Silicon Avatar, & violin was in numerous episodes. He did sing though, in the movies, & one time he made a song about lifeforms, using his Ops computer lol
Ensigns of Command in the opening teaser
It means they couldn't afford to add more actors in the scene lol. To be fair, a lot of times you could see as many as 20 attendees.
They also quite liked showing them do theater too. Data was the only one into poetry & painting. I like to assume it was an extension of community. DS9 is an outpost with all manner of elements aboard. TNG was a closer community, who did do holodeck stuff together, a bit... including sports, but also wanted to engage each other in group stuff that was more live, in their real environment. Being cooped up on a ship would maybe encourage more pursuits that were befitting the environment
Interestingly, I was looking at the original script & Wesley is still in the scene, seemingly at the helm. It's even more confusing, because Haskell is handling stuff that seems more in line with Ops, even though Data is there too. It's almost as if Haskell was meant to be a science station tech or something.
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Wow, the sense of scale - like form the bridge to Ten-Forward.... they also look like they're all just like in an elevator... I also hope nobody served beans in Ten-Forward before they all stood next to each other there...
Here's a thought about Tuvok... if he has been captain of Voyager during "False Profits", he might well have ordered his crew to use the wormhole. So, in "Resolutions", if Tuvok had followed Janeway's orders, passed up the Vidiians, and continued on course... Voyager might have gotten home 5 years early.
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