Stuff that make you wonder but not own thread worthy

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Also, is her surname of "Scott" a possible relation to Montgomery?

Unlikely.

Scotty never had any children (so she can't be a several-times-great-grand-daughter-in-law), and they obviously aren't blood relatives. Besides, it's rather a common name anyway...

As for Remmick, the bluegill parasites probably considered him an ideal target to be taken over. An officer who led the investigation into the conspiracy would never be suspected as a member OF that conspiracy. (This also worked with Admiral Quinn.)

 

[Qonundrum]

Unlikely.

Scotty never had any children (so she can't be a several-times-great-grand-daughter-in-law), and they obviously aren't blood relatives. Besides, it's rather a common name anyway...

As for Remmick, the bluegill parasites probably considered him an ideal target to be taken over. An officer who led the investigation into the conspiracy would never be suspected as a member OF that conspiracy.

Great point about Remmick, and the lead parasite could arguably change bodies as desired.

"Scott" is a common name, that is true. But I might postulate possibilities, since Memory beta confirms he has a great granddaughter, which would mean he would have had to have produced a daughter, or adopted one (if MB is canonical, and even then, why not?) Additionally, the issue of genetics could allow dark skinned offspring, even with just three generations - and some people do become fathers in their 60s or even 70s, so for many reasons I don't think it's impossible... Plus, if Sarek can populate the universe with a ton of kids offscreen, any character arguably can. There's bound to be more kiddies out there than Spock, Sybok, Michael... Not to mention other characters like how there's bound to be a lot more kiddies out there than David Marcus. From on-screen count, the score is 3 for Sarek and 1 for Kirk. 1 for Kirk, really? I'm impressed. But we don't know and the show left a lot open for interpretation, which isn't a bad thing... And even Scotty once said " if something's important, you'll make the time."

 

[Qonundrum]

One other thought: Everyone says how Picard and Riker are out of character when they violently fry the parasitic creature. The story itself was definitely rushing its narrative beats to fit the 43-minute runtime but, given that these creatures knew how to manipulate humans and Vulcans with enough proof that shows they're trying to aggressively take over and Picard and Riker did hear compromised-Scott say "We're the brains, you're the brawn" and that doesn't help any more than the lot of them being taken over already by the purple bluegills, is it a huge and out-of-character stretch for Picard and Riker to quickly notice that the parasite using Remmick to menacingly scowl "We seek peaceful coexistence!" while the throat bulges as baby shrimp repositions itself inside his neck, despite all the destruction and deaths the species already caused over a fairly lengthy period of time? Were Picard and Riker jumping to a snap conclusion? What would be needed for Picard and Riker to reconsider? But TNG season 1, which is not worse than VOY season 1, was probably trying too many formats, with this arc being limited to 2 stories, and possibly other factors as well...

 

[Farscape One]

One thing to consider about Scott being related to Scotty... Scotty did have at least one sibling. (In TWOK, Preston was his nephew, at least it was a deleted scene it script, if I remember correctly.) They could have had other kids.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Were Picard and Riker jumping to a snap conclusion?

No, they simply recognized that the bluegill creatures were an immediate and dangerous threat (not just to Starfleet, but to the entire Federation) and thus needed to be neutralized at all costs.

 

[Commander Troi]

Grand Poobah of the 80s-Neon-Purple People-Eater Prawn Things

 

[Qonundrum]

Why didn't more episodes in seasons 1-3 start pre-credits scenes like what's in "Where Silence Has Lease", as these readily add to character development without impeding the drama. Indeed, we see the budding of Riker going off the exchange student class in "A Matter of Honor", and exploring Worf expands on him without demystifying him in the process, something that would definitely become an issue in later seasons. To compare and by complete chance, "Heart of Glory" is an excellent story but I found the mismatch of exploring Geordi's VISOR was a bit misplaced what with everyone knowing they're in a critical situation where time to dawdle was minimal before the ship goes boom-diddy-boom-boom. Or, if nothing else, have the episode start innocently enough with the crew going on board to assist a lesser-scale problem* but then *ding* Geordi sees a bulkhead or warp core or other treknobabble bit about to disintegrate and then cue credits because of the tension level and sense of threat now raised.

Heck, for 'Heart of Glory", have the disaster happen in the process, get the few survivors' heineys beamed out, and reveal later that the rogue Klingons were still responsible - nitpick resolved, which would then turn an already story into a one... but the story is already so good** that I'd be inclined to rate it if not despite my whiny widdle nitpwick.

* the crew assisting a ship where - say, because why not - a bacteria thingy ate all the uniforms and they replicated spare, only to find out the rogues were testing a shiny new weapon and found it was for a backup plan or testing a new bomb device or whatever for later use (which then ties into "Unification" more smoothly and without becoming "Small Universe Syndrome" (SUS)...

** especially for season one standards, which ran the gamut to see what worked, but in more cases than not it's all grown on me... I'm going to check my temperature and pulse rate now cuz some would say I've gotten ill... or more than usual ​

 

[Qonundrum]

After rewatching a handful of season one (mostly for some of the better episodes) and getting into two again, I noticed that early Dr Crusher seems to be a stronger character overall and with more potential when compared to her later return.

 

[suarezguy]

I wonder what kind of reception "Code of Honor" would have gotten if the aliens were played by a random selection of actors, instead of exclusively African Americans.

There probably would be, while the reactions would be less vitriolic, still a lot complaints that the main villain actors were just too mwahaha OTT though probably also some more enjoyment drawn from it in so bad it's good way.

 

[Qonundrum]

I wonder what kind of reception "Code of Honor" would have gotten if the aliens were played by a random selection of actors, instead of exclusively African Americans.

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There probably would be, while the reactions would be less vitriolic, still a lot complaints that the main villain actors were just too mwahaha OTT though probably also some more enjoyment drawn from it in so bad it's good way.

Ditto for "Justice", among others, where it's the same problem - no random actors and realistic diversity. Both it and "Code of Honor" have some great underlying ideas, but their execution is a different story.

The acting from all involved were actually very good IMHO, especially with how clunky some script material was.

Have you seen "Target Audience"'s reaction to CoH?

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They're probably the best TNG review/reaction channel right now. Certainly the most refreshing.

 

[Qonundrum]

"Unnatural Selection" - they wisely blow up the Lantree, that's fair enough - the risk of eliminating the spread something nasty so permanently is better than placing a quarantine beacon that relays the message "Stay away, pretty please, with corn syrup on top." Yes, they could tow the thing and - because of some plot armor - the ship gets taken over by a baddie and a season seven sequel worth watching is born. How would they deal with the corpses, anyway? Open an airlock, giggle as they whoosh on out, then hope that the Borg, Lore, anyone traveling in a modified photon torpedo tube because it looks cool, et cetera, doesn't float on by at just the wrong time since the whole of outer space is clearly smaller than the distance to the local gut-belchin' buffet restaurant? The episode was rushing things a tad, but there are still some variables...

... also, how come they don't relocate the research center staff and deal with the carriers? The DNA-altering virus that rapidly ages is obviously something that can be perverted into a weapon more quickly. Not all the Lantree crew beamed down, but they all died from it so it's certainly spread as through air and/or touch, perhaps... If airborne, how long can this thing last after all the hosts die off? If by touch, then surely at least one person would not be touching any of the corpses after noticing long enough what everyone else was doing. Fortunately, neither Data nor shuttle that Pulaski fiddled around in were impacted by the space cooties, so it's not lingering on any interior surfaces. That would be bad.

Lastly, all this reminds me -- hopefully the station is well within Federation space, maybe near Armus's planet, because you know some enemy could waltz on in and have a field day with both virus and the gooey psyllium slick (available in orange, cherry, mint, and asparagus flavors) that redefines "sticks to your ribs"... Armus would probably be grateful for being picked up by some baddies and who knows what secrets it has, now that it's no longer feeling sad as it's found a new buddy to play with.

 

[at Quark's]

Rascals

<Just after Picard, Guinan, Keiko and Ro have been transformed into children>

PICARD: Let me know as soon as you have any further information, Doctor. Number One, you're with me.
CRUSHER: Captain, I need to run some additional tests.
PICARD: Of course. The three of you will remain as needed to assist Doctor Crusher.
(Riker and Picard leave)

So, I can understand Picard can order Ro around - she's Starfleet. But neither Keiko nor Guinan are. They are civilians and (in a way) guests on board the ship. While I was not surprised to see Picard has (some) authority over them, too, it made me wonder: just how far does Picard's authority to order civilians around go?

 

[Mojochi]

So, I can understand Picard can order Ro around - she's Starfleet. But neither Keiko nor Guinan are. They are civilians and (in a way) guests on board the ship. While I was not surprised to see Picard has (some) authority over them, too, it made me wonder: just how far does Picard's authority to order civilians around go?

It's a valid question, and in matters like this of the health/safety of ship occupants, I'd imagine he has quite a lot of authority over anyone aboard. However, isn't Keiko also some kind of contracted botanist or something aboard? Not particularly Starfleet maybe, but still kind of there as a subsidiary thereof. As for Guinan. I'd think their personal friendship gives him some leeway to direct her to stay there

There's also the fact that it's clear Picard is not handling this all that well, & in denial, thereby his reaction here, even if it is overstepping, is explainable by that.

 

[at Quark's]

True, and given that this is a 'highly evolved' bunch of people that also implicitly trusts Picard, they're probably happy to do what he asks of them. It's just that he sounds it more like a casual command, which triggered me. ('What if for example Guinan took exception to being ordered around like that?')

And agreed that his own not handling it too well is also coming into play here.

 

[Mojochi]

It's kind of a blow to his ego. So maybe he got a little egotistical. "I'm still in charge around here"

 

[Qonundrum]

Did Q introduce the El Aurians to the Borg as well?

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I somehow doubt they were trading cookie and s'mores recipes... granted, both of them engage in hand gestures that suggest Guinan has abilities not dissimilar to Q's - at least defensive... But even by 1994, playing "connect the dots" fanfic to come up with an intertwining plot with them all would be a bit short-universe-syndrome as well as too easy and obvious (especially if Q brought them in... but if Q did, then Guinan, Soran, et al, would be quite surprised... and as the Borg hadn't used any of the powers that the Al Aurians had, and wouldn't need to... what technology did the Collective take?)

 

[Farscape One]

"I have four pips on my collar NOW! Now! Now! Now! Now! Now!"

 

[at Quark's]

I somehow doubt they were trading cookie and s'mores recipes...

GUINAN: Not all the Q are alike. Some are almost respectable
PICARD: How so?
GUINAN: Unlike this **** here, I also met one that had the decency to at least pretend my cookies were digestible.

On the matter of how the El-Aurians and Borg met, I think most likely because of El-Aurian exploration (and possibly the Borg continuously expanding their territory as well). Some El-Aurians traveled far and wide, they had been at least in the part of the galaxy where system J-25 was located and also on Earth as early as 1893, thousands of light years away. So it stands to reason they sooner or later would have bumped into races such as the Borg.

 

[at Quark's]

Speaking of Q ....

Why did he refer to Riker as 'redoubtable' several times? (at least in Hide and Q and Q Who, possibly on more occasions).

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redoubtable

Sarcastically?