Stuff that make you wonder but not own thread worthy

[SteveJRogers]

I was about to make a TJ Hooker/Denny Crane joke about comparing those characters to the captain of a starship

But then it hit me that it has been said the 1970s LA based private investigator Jim Rockford shares much more DNA with a wild west era gambler and do-gooder Brett Maverick than the same actor performing them,

Both James Garner and creative team members of Rockford Files have said Jim was essentially a modern day Brett Maverick,

Nothing to do with an actor getting a key role in multiple genre specific projects, and the idea of fans seeing too much of the earlier character(s) in the latter one(s), BUT legit cases have been made for intentional or not, through-lines

 

[TheAdmiralty]

In the Ten Forward scene at the end of Evolution Beverly looks like she's eating the colorful gelatin stuff from TOS. Never noticed that before, they usually look like they're eating normal food on TNG.

 

[Set Harth]

You can take our money, but you will never take our Jell-O.

 

[somebuddyX]

I'm wondering about the name for the Insectoids/Proto-Borg in-universe *in alternate timeline* and I came up with Sectoids.
Like how cyborg became Borg.

 

[CoveTom]

Yes. It wouldn't have worked if, say, Patrick Stewart had played more than one iconic genre role.

I don't think it's the same thing. Is there anyone who, when they hear Patrick Stewart's name, would think of X-Men first? Is there anyone who primarily identifies Patrick Stewart as Professor Xavier?

However, at the time TNG was being cast, bring up Yaphet Kotto's name and I guarantee the first thought of most people would have been Alien.

I think a more apt comparison would be what if they had tried casting Mark Hamill or Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher in a major role in TNG. Do you think that would have worked?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I think a more apt comparison would be what if they had tried casting Mark Hamill or Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher in a major role in TNG. Do you think that would have worked?

I'm a Wing Commander fan, so I have to say yes.

 

[Tomalak]

I don't think it's the same thing. Is there anyone who, when they hear Patrick Stewart's name, would think of X-Men first? Is there anyone who primarily identifies Patrick Stewart as Professor Xavier?

I think a lot of people went into X-Men thinking of Stewart as Captain Picard, but it didn't matter after five minutes because he's a great actor.

And yeah, there are probably plenty of younger Marvel fans who have seen the X-Men films on Disney+ but have never seen Star Trek TNG.

However, at the time TNG was being cast, bring up Yaphet Kotto's name and I guarantee the first thought of most people would have been Alien.

So what? Are we saying only unknown actors can play characters in Star Trek? LeVar was known for Roots and everyone knew Avery Brooks as Hawk.

I think a more apt comparison would be what if they had tried casting Mark Hamill or Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher in a major role in TNG. Do you think that would have worked?

Sure, why not? You think Harrison Ford wouldn't have been great if he'd wanted to do a Star Trek TV show?

I not saying Yaphet Kotto would have been better than Stewart by any means, I just find the notion that playing a character in a major, successful sci-fi film somehow disqualifies an actor from contention for a part in Star Trek odd in the extreme.

 

[Leviathan]

Who were the "nice" aliens Armus came from? Metrons maybe?

Did they shoot Tasha off in a torpedo casing?

In the Mirror universe is Armus cool?

 

[Farscape One]

Who were the "nice" aliens Armus came from? Metrons maybe?

Did they shoot Tasha off in a torpedo casing?

In the Mirror universe is Armus cool?

I wonder if Armus came from the Sheliak... they were shedding him.

(Which makes you think if what we saw in "The Ensigns of Command" are the nice version without Armus, imagine what they would be like if they kept him...)

 

[Leviathan]

I wonder if Armus came from the Sheliak... they were shedding him.

...perhaps the Sheliak were a first attempt...they only managed to shed the bureaucratic and legalese bits, resulting in the Sheliak.

They tried again to get the remaining 1% of evil.

 

[Captrek]

I think Armus comes across differently on the page. Read the transcript and imagine the character were able to emote like a human. In the hands of the right actor, that could have been an amazing character.

 

[AntonyF]

I think Armus comes across differently on the page. Read the transcript and imagine the character were able to emote like a human. In the hands of the right actor, that could have been an amazing character.

In what way? As as tragic character? I always felt empathy for him.

 

[Captrek]

In what way? As as tragic character? I always felt empathy for him.

Yes. I think more so on the page than on the screen.

 

[Firebird]

If we're talking about Armus on the page, it might be helpful to have the actual shooting script to refer to instead of a transcript:

https://www.st-minutiae.com/resources/scripts/122.txt

 

[korblborp]

I don't think it's the same thing. Is there anyone who, when they hear Patrick Stewart's name, would think of X-Men first? Is there anyone who primarily identifies Patrick Stewart as Professor Xavier?

90s kids who grew up with the xmen movies?

I think a lot of people went into X-Men thinking of Stewart as Captain Picard, but it didn't matter after five minutes because he's a great actor.

also years of jokes about resemblence, plus the odd official materials making the comparison between xavier and picard directly, priming them

 

[SteveJRogers]

90s kids who grew up with the xmen movies?


also years of jokes about resemblence, plus the odd official materials making the comparison between xavier and picard directly, priming them

Not just comparisons, LITERAL fantasy casting pieces

 

[FredH]

I think a lot of people went into X-Men thinking of Stewart as Captain Picard, but it didn't matter after five minutes because he's a great actor.

Well, that and movie-Xavier being pretty much written as Mutant Picard, no doubt because of who they were casting. I’ve always felt that classic comics Xavier, at least in my formative era of the 80s, was significantly different (and modeled after Yul Brynner).

(Which is why to me the comics character will always be “ZAY-vier”, not “EXAY-vier”, and — being old-money American — does not have a British accent.)

 

[Captrek]

If we're talking about Armus on the page, it might be helpful to have the actual shooting script to refer to instead of a transcript:

https://www.st-minutiae.com/resources/scripts/122.txt

I wonder whether the writers were conscious of the plot similarities to Beyond the Farthest Star.

 

[somebuddyX]

Who were the "nice" aliens Armus came from? Metrons maybe?

Did they shoot Tasha off in a torpedo casing?

In the Mirror universe is Armus cool?

Great questions. I don't have any ideas for the first and last but lately I've been thinking what if Sela had been Prime Tasha and in that scenario she was put in a torpedo and I guess found by Romulans.