Spoilers Strange New Worlds 1x02 - "Children of The Comet"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Serveaux, May 6, 2022.

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  1. IMC Headquarters

    IMC Headquarters Screencaptioning Addict Premium Member

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    In this story the phasers' harmonics were adjusted.
     
  2. Saul

    Saul Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Those are questions well worth exploring. How much does he know? He seemed very unworried but also partly living in the moment. Does he remember things the way we remember events from 10 years ago in the past? Not completely remembered but he has a general sense of how things went? And then closer to his eventual accident he experienced in the time crystal vision the memories are clearer so he can remember things like the names of crew members?
     
  3. Noname Given

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    And they did it once in 79 episodes of the original Star Trek, which I mentioned in my post. I'm well aware what they started doing in the 80s and as I said I don't care for it.
     
  4. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Commodore Commodore

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    I got The Corbomite Manuever vibes watching the showdown between the Shepherd captain and Pike.
     
  5. thribs

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    37 languages, but not Klingon. :)
     
  6. BigJake

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    I'd give it an 8/10.

    The musical stuff was fun... if a bit rubbery. Yes, the alien comet just happening to use a musical system for communication that perfectly accords with Western tuning systems is not unlike those old-timey TOS planets that just happened to develop parallel cultures to ancient Rome or the Native Americans. But, rolling with it, it provided a cool form of problem-solving and some genuinely beautiful moments in the episode. Felt like a bit of a callback to Close Encounters of the Third Kind in a way.

    There was some good action, a nice bit of tactical cleverness from Pike and company, and an interesting opponent in the overzealous Shepherds. Enjoyed seeing some character development for Uhura (as others have pointed out, more than she ever got in the old days... which is saying something for just a single episode). The idea of the Ma'Hanit was interesting as far as it went, although perhaps the notion of ancient aliens playing galactic pinball with comets and trusting near-misses to fate does not bear thinking about too deeply. The core crew all continue to be entertaining, although it's a pity about Sam Kirk spending most of the episode unconscious.

    I'm really hoping we don't spend the whole first season bookending everything with discussions of Pike's Impending Doom. That said, a fun episode overall.
     
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  7. Amaris

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    Yeah, I loved the pilot, but this was even better. I was fully invested from start to finish, and it felt almost like I was watching a movie. The production values for this show are terrific. I love the focus on characters, their individual personalities, and Pike's command style is already different from Kirk's, but still reminiscent of the type of command leadership associated with classic Trek. This is, currently, my favorite modern Star Trek by far, leaping over Discovery and Picard (despite my enjoyment of both). This just scratches an itch I didn't even know I had, and it's wonderful. I can't wait to see it continue.

    The music is mathematical. The actors were just using terms that western audiences would be familiar with. Spock himself states that it's the mathematical properties of music that make it pleasing to our ears, and that's coming from a Vulcan.
     
  8. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I have no idea where those numbers are from. Is the SNW number in particular official in any sense?
     
  9. Mr Awe

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    Real comets tend to be fairly small. An entire comet won't make a difference in a planet's water. When they first observed what appeared to be a natural comet, the Enterprise crew didn't note that it was unusually massive for a comment. Therefore, it appeared like a typical comet, until they investigated further.

    I suppose you could say it was a huge comet capable of a huge chunk and that the crew just never mentioned it. That would be odd . . .

    I'm willing to hand wave it way as alien tech though.
     
  10. thribs

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    Pike knowing all that future stuff makes me think he was in the mind of Future Pike at the time. That could mean he might know Kirk will take over from him as captain.
     
  11. Belz...

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    I don't know, but in Trek history phasers were mostly reddish. Mostly.

    Clearly Pike managed to snatch one of the diplomatic suites.

    Just eyeballing it, using the taller saucer windows, it does seem much smaller than 440 meters.

    Do NOT question Ma'Hanit!

    Real solar system comets. But how would you call a larger, icy world like Pluto if it started having a coma while roaming near a star?
     
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  12. MarsWeeps

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    8/10.
    Some random comments:
    * Uhura has more to do in this single episode than in all of TOS. Good to see.
    * La'an reminds me of the Belter chick on The Expanse. I like her.
    * Glad to see the episode clock in at 52 minutes. I hope it continues.
    * Chapel sure is different than the original. In a good way.
    * Pike is also different than the original "Is your blood red like ours? I'm gonna find out!" Nice to see he has a sense of humor, I hope they don't over do it.
    * Sam Kirk is a dumbass. Probably why he left Starfleet and moved to a planet with flying killer pizzas.
    * I don't like Ortegas at all. Maybe it's the haircut. Spock should lend her some of his sideburns, he can afford to.
    * Enterprise- don't care for the Aztec-ing. They should tone it down.
    * Una - love her character but it seems she has aged since Discovery days.

    Can't wait for the next episode!
     
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  13. IMC Headquarters

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    Ortegas' portrayer Melissa Navia strongly reminds me of Nana Visitor.
     
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  14. Charles Phipps

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    I choose to believe that they were speaking a dialect of Klingon she was unfamiliar with.
     
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    I didn't see it until you said it and now I can't unsee it.
     
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  16. Amaris

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    Yeah, I took a strong liking to Ortegas immediately, just like I did Kira back in the DS9 days.
     
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  17. Belz...

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    It's her fault for instead learning all three Romulan dialects. A bit useless if they hadn't had contact for a hundred years, if you ask me.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    Plus, the Klingons were in isolation for most of the 2154 to 2256 period with just occasional border raids and attacks on the Federation. It's possible Uhura knew very little Klingon at all and just never learned it.
     
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  19. Yistaan

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    Except Discovery indicated the Fed hadn't talked to the Klingons in a hundred years either officially until the sudden Klingon war.
     
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  20. captainmkb

    captainmkb Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    "hey let's show this is Sam Kirk by rolling his unconscious body over the exact same way they rolled his body over in TOS"