STC Ep. 9: ???.... (Coming this June)

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Nightowl1701, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. Firebird

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    I know we have our different stances and disagreements on STC, but I do indeed align with much of what you say, Warped9. It would've been nice for STC to have stayed completely true to its original incarnation. However, I do appreciate, like any other TV series, they've evolved and changed over time to do their own thing. I suppose I'm more forgiving on the changes and references because I found STC between Fairest of Them All and The White Iris, so I got Vic's adjusted vision for the series' concept.
     
  2. Kelso

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    James Kerwin just announced at WHOlanta that Nicola Bryant will the primary guest star in episodes 10 and 11, which will be released in the fall.
     
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  3. Bixby

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    Are you done?

    My turn... whether or not you think it's the same crap, warped 9 brought up a very valid point months ago, and yes he has repeated it many times since. It doesn't make his observation invalid because you think you've heard it too often, it just means that everyone involved with the production crew has ignored it for whatever reason.
    I brought up people from the Cawley group. they would NOT have seen a valid criticism like this without some sort of response.
    Here is what a to-the-point and appropriate choice of responses to Warped's criticism should look like:
    ''we are aware of the comments made towards STC's productions, we
    (A) have never made this claim publically
    (B) originally desired this approach, but due to reason 1, 2 or 3 have decided on this somewhat different direction.

    And that's bloody it

    either of those would have stopped ''the same crap over and over'' months ago. Or as I call it, legitimate observation.

    Frankly, if the original comment wanting Warped 9 to ''stifle it'' or however you want to phrase it, if it had been written by the usual ''fan club members'' I would have dismissed it in half a second. but bloody hell, Treadwell works on this production, and you enabled him.
    You don't want to read someone's rough comment then either put him on ignore mode, or better yet do something about it, or grow a thicker skin.

    This whole incident is bloody sad.
     
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  4. feek61

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    The only thing bloody sad about this is how you have made something of nothing and completely over-reacted. I don't believe a question was directed to me; if so I didn't see it. I didn't "enable" another member by "liking" a post; that's absurd! I typically don't don't respond because:

    1. I don't usually read through all of these post; particularly the long redundant ones.
    2. I don't really care to respond since my opinion is only important to me.
    3. I don't speak for STC so it's not my place to discuss STC policies.

    Not sure why you seem so hostile towards me or why you feel that I am obligated to reply to someones post. Since I don't frequent these forums please feel free to PM me if I have missed some question. Also, if you are so frustrated by STC then I would recommend not watching STC; it doesn't seem to be a positive experience for you as far as I can tell. I am perfectly willing to have a civil discussion but I'm not impressed by your ranting and will most likely not take anything you say too seriously (or even read your posts) based on your history. I have no issues if people post their thoughts and opinions but I don't feel I need to comment on them.

    Thank you
     
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  5. BoredShipCapt'n

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    That fits with Vic's implication on the Trek Geeks podcast that Anne Lockhart would be the guest in Episode 9.
     
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  6. Warped9

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    Some might think I sound like an inflexible hardass, but if they've really read my comments they would know I cut STC plenty of slack.

    I let the holodeck introduction go because even though it is tied strongly to TNG it was originally a TOS concept that could have been done if they had been inclined. The fx resources of the era were more than adequate for the purpose given what we had already seen on the series,

    After initial doubt I was generally fine with Counselor Elise McKenna because Michelle Specht is a good actress and her character was generally well written, and she never eclipsed any of the major familiar characters.

    I could gloss over post TOS references if they were kept sufficiantly vague. I got antsy when such references were blatantly specific and obvious--that is what prodded me out of what would be transpiring onscreen.

    I could look over followup stories when they were justified. "Pilgrim Of Eternity" and "Fairest Of Them All" were fine enough as far as they went. Although it's very unlikely TOS would ever have done those stories it's true they could have done them (or something like it) if they had been inclined. If anything I think TOS might have pushed the story further in "Fairest Of Them All" given a fifty minute running time. Who knows--we might have actually gotten a Kirk death scene (Mirror Kirk) decades before Prime Kirk was offed in GEN.

    But then doing more followup stories near regularly after the first two definitely broke the TOS practice. Now they were indulging in pure fanfic rather than the palette of stories TOS would more likely have done. Hence I cried foul.

    The insertion of clearly contemporary terminology along with the TNG style technobabble also tainted the soup. Maybe the creative team weren't noticing these things, or maybe they thought it was something no one would notice, or maybe it was just more tieing into overall post TOS continuity. No, they didn't overdue it, but mixed in with the other callouts to later productions it served to help further diminish the supposedly sought authentic vibe.

    The obvious foreshadowing of post TOS events I find irksome because it is simply so highly unlikely given the way TOS usually worked. Perhaps that is partly why I like TOS even more now than when I was younger--because it is its own thing not directly tied to what came later. Later, particularly from TNG onward, there was this conscious exercise to try tying everything together.

    In many respects STC brings back the Star Trek I like most of all in the form I like most. Hence my disappointment with not pursuing some ideas and injecting elements that could never likely have ever been there before.
     
  7. Bixby

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    If that's how you feel, Feek, then I invite you to go to my profile and put me on ignore mode, nothing more I can do it seems.
    I guess all the positive things I say about your productions just don't matter, to too many people here you're either all in or you're a hater...
     
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  8. alensatemybuick1

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    Calling out people for "liking" a post - interesting idea.

    Inviting people to put you on ignore - even more intriguing.
     
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  9. feek61

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    I am responding to your PM but I must say that you tend to read more into what I am saying than I actually say. You seem to take one little bit and blow it way out of proportion. I never said one negative thing about people being critical about STC; I am one of them! That fact that I don't feel the need to post my thoughts here is my business but no one said that STC only wants to hear positive reviews . . . well, except you.

    Also, I want to add that it's YOU that seems to be the only person trying to intimidate anyone here; everyone else seems to be civil (in my opinion)

    One more thing, this is the FIRST time that I have ever gotten into trouble for "liking" something and for not commenting on something not directed to me, lol.
     
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  10. Bixby

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    Just as general information, Feek and I took to PMs a few days ago and as far as I can see have ironed out our differences. Well more like have outlined our personal points of view to each other. In my case, seeing a fellow member's freedom of speech under ''attack'', quote unquote and not having it...
    Back to regular discussion...
     
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  11. feek61

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    All is well!! :)
     
  12. Philip Guyott

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    With 3 episodes left, two being the finale, chances are 'nil that Khan or Harry Mudd will show up. Now, I would like to see Sarek appear, particularly if they make a stop at Vulcan. I would love to see the new planet set used for Vulcan.
     
  14. Warped9

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    Khan's appearance would make zero sense if we accept he's not to be seen (by Kirk and crew) for several more years.

    Sarek could make an appearance if they indeed stop off at Vulcan.

    The assumption sems to be that all the characters make certain choices right at the end of the 5-year mission. That strikes me as somewhat too neat-and-tidy. Where they are at the beginning of TMP doesn't necessarily mean thats where they need to be at the end of TOS. A lot could happen in the 2-3 year period between the 5-year mission and the events of TMP.
     
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  15. feek61

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    Really? I heard through the grape-vine the title for the new episode was "Clear as Mudd" ;)
     
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  16. Warped9

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  17. Philip Guyott

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    The Secrets of Star Trek Continues with Vic Mignogna

     
  18. BoredShipCapt'n

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    From STC Facebook page:


    BIG NEWS! We have confirmed the venues for our final 3 episodes!

    Episode IX, "What Ships are For" will premiere at Florida Supercon in Ft. Lauderdale the weekend of July 27-30

    Episode X, "To Boldly Go (Part One)" will premiere at Salt Lake City Comic Con the weekend of September 21-23

    Episode XI, "To Boldly Go (Part Two)" will premiere at New York City Comicon the weekend of October 5-8.

    As you all know, this is the culmination of our series and an exciting finale to the most iconic show in television history. We will never be able to thank all of you enough for the support and enthusiasm you've given STC on our own 5 year mission. I hope you'll make plans to join us at one or more of the premieres!

    Sincerely,

    Vic
     
  19. Warped9

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    "What Ships Are For" is a cool sounding title.
     
  20. Firebird

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    From the title, I have to wonder if it'll tie into the mysterious destruction of the Hood in Embracing the Winds, perhaps the mention of the loss of the Lexington in Come Not Between the Dragons, or the start of the refit program?