STC Ep. 7: "Embrace The Winds" speculation and discussion....
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Which fortunately didn't happen. Once was more than enough.
- In "By Any Other Name" they made a reference to how they escaped on Eminiar 7 in "A Taste Of Armageddon."
- Also in "By Any Other Name" they made reference to having been to the galactic barrier once before in "Where No Man Has Gone Before."
- In "The Deadly Years" they reused the corbomite idea previously used in "The Corbomite Maneuver."
- In "Whom Gods Destroy" I believe they made reference to the Vians from "The Empath." Or was that TAS' "The Infinite Vulcan?"
But note that those are all minor references and not building an entire episode as a followup to a previous story. If there are other minor callbacks then I'm drawing a blank for the moment.
- "The Menagerie" is a followup to the unaired "The Cage." It must be said, though, that "The Menagerie" was not produced as an intentional followup, but to save time and money (because they were behind in their production schedule) and to salvage the investment in the unaired pilot.
- The original story for what became "I, Mudd" did not include Harry Mudd. So the story was intended as a new standalone episode. David Gerrold's rewrite of the story put Harry Mudd into it and sought to give it an overt comedic slant and as a result it is something of a followup to "Mudd's Women" in revisiting the Mudd character.
- "Pilgrim Of Eternity" is a direct followup to "Who Mourns For Adonais?"
- "Fairest Of Them All" is a direct followup to "Mirror, Mirror."
- "The White Iris" is essentially a followup to "City On The Edge Of Forever," "The Paradise Syndrome" and "Requiem For Methuselah."
2/79 (2.5 percent) vs. 3/6 (50 percent).
One could even make a case for "Lolani" being a followup to an ENT episode only they do it subtlely enough that it isn't obvious to many. You can also argue that "Lolani" is simply building on what was glimpsed in "The Menagerie" and "Whom Gods Destroy."
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The original story for "I, Mudd" was based on Jack Williamson's The Humanoids, iirc. It was not a comedy.
Thanks for posting this.
James Kerwin is saying what some of us have already begun to talk about: these are guidelines, not rules, and they are revealing in what is said as well as what is not said.
STC could get a pass from CBS based on their previous good comportment. And if they make those remaining four episodes at runtimes between 40-50 minutes they stay away from the 60 minute to feature length issue.
CBS didn't step into a shit storm by suing Axanar. They specifically targeted someone who was blatantly profiting from their IP while everyone else was playing nice. The shit storm exists only in the minds of Alec Peters and his demented followers.
STC had already collected their funds before the guidelines came out and the guidelines are not retroactive. There is also no guideline against donates or private investment.
If they can get to 11 episodes then that is indeed good news.
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Do have a reference for this?
$100K budget per episode should work very nicely for them. As long as they continue to have the good stories to back them up.
I won't pretend to know any of this myself, but according to memory Alpha, Gerrold only worked on the final draft of the episode. (Subsequently revised by D.C. Fontana.)
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Kerwin stated both in the comments section of the blog itself and on Facebook that his "quotes" in that article are not genuine. I've learned to take anything from Lane with a grain of salt anyway.
It would be kinda of crappy for fans to have donated for Engineering and the Planet set, and then have the show get cancelled before they were used, or were built for just one episode.
I wonder what is going to happen to the sets after the fact? I am overjoyed that it is attempting to continue; A tad bit dismayed that we won't get the full 13 (which to me is a full "modern" season but I know that is just myself being OCD and/or selfish), and an absolute curiosity on what the future truly holds.
I wonder what is going to happen to the sets after the fact? I am overjoyed that it is attempting to continue; A tad bit dismayed that we won't get the full 13 (which to me is a full "modern" season but I know that is just myself being OCD and/or selfish), and an absolute curiosity on what the future truly holds.
Looking forward to seeing the planet set, even if only for a couple of times. That will really make it the total TOS package.
Who is the source for this? David Gerrold?
Frankly, this isn't true. Kandel's deal memo for the episode (dated March 20, 1967) already has the final title on it ("I, Mudd"), and that predates his first story outline. Mudd was in the episode from the beginning. Gerrold only became involved with "I, Mudd" much later, when Coon had him do a script polish on the episode.
Spoiler regarding a BTS pic
There's a behind the scenes pic on their FB that shows Kirk and Spock in what I assume is Spock's quarters. There's a "futuristic" Samsonite suitcase opened on the bed. I'm wondering what's going on there? I'm also not sure if it's Spock's quarters, the art on the wall doesn't look especially Vulcan-like, but we're only seeing it from one angle.
I don't think thats Kirk's quarters either.
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