Starship in the Cornfield (SPOILERS)

[Stag]

OK, we have all seen the Heavy Cruiser being built in the Iowa cornfields and we also know that it is never mentioned by name as being Enterprise in the film, it also has no ID markings. (There is no link between the first teaser and this ship either)

We also know that the Enterprise in the movie has been confirmed as a Constitution Class.

So my thought is this. What if the ship being built in the cornfield is the Constitution and it is not a space worthy model, simply a proof of concept type - used for systems testing, placement and construction mapping and the actual flying ships are built in space? Think of the space shuttle Enterprise, could not fly in space but was used as a testbed. What if this ship is a mega version of a testbed and simply named and Id'd as USS Constitution NCC-1700?

 

[SalvorHardin]

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Orci, Abrams and the rest have said in interviews that it's the Enterprise we see being built on Iowa's ground.
It may or may not be on screen (I have no idea about that yet) but it's good enough for me.

 

[M'Sharak]

Re: Starship in the Cornfield (Spoilers - I think)

OK, we have all seen the Heavy Cruiser being built in the Iowa cornfields and we also know that it is never mentioned by name as being Enterprise in the film, it also has no ID markings. (There is no link between the first teaser and this ship either)

We also know that the Enterprise in the movie has been confirmed as a Constitution Class.

So my thought is this. What if the ship being built in the cornfield is the Constitution and it is not a space worthy model, simply a proof of concept type - used for systems testing, placement and construction mapping and the actual flying ships are built in space? Think of the space shuttle Enterprise, could not fly in space but was used as a testbed. What if this ship is a mega version of a testbed and simply named and Id'd as USS Constitution NCC-1700?

It's the Enterprise and it's built in Iowa. The ship you (and Kirk on a motorcycle) see is not another ship or a mock-up; it's the Enterprise. There is no question on that count.

TrekMovie: On the Enterprise being built in Iowa — It is amazing that in January after the first trailer, where the ship was being built was the hottest topic. It seem after the second trailer, it still is the hottest topic. Are you surprised this is such a big deal to fans?
Roberto Orci: No, not at all. From the minute we pulled that fan photo of the Enterprise being built in a ship yard - we showed that to JJ as a way to get him excited and to show him how grounded Star Trek could be, literally [laughs]. And he really locked onto that image. We showed with the caveat that if we went down that road, there would be some strong fan reaction, but that we thought we could justify it, but we knew if from second one.
TrekMovie: And do you have any internal reasoning why the ship is being built in Riverside Iowa instead of San Francisco.
Roberto Orci: Yes.

TrekMovie interview w/Bob Orci

 

[Franklin]

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Of course it's the Enterprise. Even if Orci didn't say so, for dramatic reasons in the story, why would anyone even imagine it's anything else? It's also an origins story, reintroducing all the major characters, and here's the introduction of the "character" Enterprise while it's still under construction.

 

[Sector 7]

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A different interview article is posted in another thread saying the complete opposite.
We only really know when we see the movie. Personally, I can wait.

 

[SalvorHardin]

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A different interview article is posted in another thread saying the complete opposite.

link ?

 

[Jessop]

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Hi,

It's the Enterprise.

Imagine that. A ship capable of breaking the light barrier and propelling itself through the stars, capable of ascending from Earth's gravity.

 

[Kruge]

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Question..

In the trailers what are those large "things" in the distance? If you look at the horizon when Kirk is zooming by on his motorcycle, there are large rectangular shaped objects in the distance

WHat are those?

 

[OneBuckFilms]

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A little info ...

Spoiler: The Ship

Is the Enterprise. As a shuttle carrying Kirk, McCoy and Uhura to Starfleet Academy, we see the shuttle pass over the camera, and can clearly see "NCC-1701" on the Warp Nacelle.

 

[M'Sharak]

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Question..

In the trailers what are those large "things" in the distance? If you look at the horizon when Kirk is zooming by on his motorcycle, there are large rectangular shaped objects in the distance

WHat are those?

It has been speculated that they are arcologies. That was some time ago, however -- back around the time of the November trailer, when we first saw them.

 

[Stag]

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Alright if they say its the Enterprise, I 'm down with it.

 

[gastrof]

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Oh just STOP this, everyone.

We all know the ship gets left in a cornfield by the aliens who took it to their homeworld when looking for help in their underwater war against....

Oh.

Sorry.

That was an old episode of SEAQUEST.

 

[Stag]

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Oh just STOP this, everyone.

We all know the ship gets left in a cornfield by the aliens who took it to their homeworld when looking for help in their underwater war against....

Oh.

Sorry.

That was an old episode of SEAQUEST.

That explains why the Enterprise is being built is in the 'Darwin the Dolphin Memorial Shipyard'. Everything starts to make more and more sense now.

 

[ShinRa Actual]

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Oh just STOP this, everyone.

We all know the ship gets left in a cornfield by the aliens who took it to their homeworld when looking for help in their underwater war against....

Oh.

Sorry.

That was an old episode of SEAQUEST.

That explains why the Enterprise is being built is in the 'Darwin the Dolphin Memorial Shipyard'. Everything starts to make more and more sense now.

Are you sure it isn't the second identical Enterprise they built over the summer hiatus after they dropped the first one into a giant sea volcano?

Nothin' but love for seaQuest tho. :P

 

[Stag]

Re: Starship in the Cornfield (Spoilers - I think)

Oh just STOP this, everyone.

We all know the ship gets left in a cornfield by the aliens who took it to their homeworld when looking for help in their underwater war against....

Oh.

Sorry.

That was an old episode of SEAQUEST.

That explains why the Enterprise is being built is in the 'Darwin the Dolphin Memorial Shipyard'. Everything starts to make more and more sense now.

Are you sure it isn't the second identical Enterprise they built over the summer hiatus after they dropped the first one into a giant sea volcano?

Nothin' but love for seaQuest tho. :P

Also we have also seen film clips of Scotty playing in Darwin's swim tubes inside the new Enterprise. An added feature as an homage to DSV.

 

[TGTheodore]

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Question..

In the trailers what are those large "things" in the distance? If you look at the horizon when Kirk is zooming by on his motorcycle, there are large rectangular shaped objects in the distance

WHat are those?

Just gigantic semi-futuristic buildings in the distance. After seeing the movie and considering it's Iowa, I would assume corn silos of some sort. Or just unidentified large buildings.

--Ted

 

[TheGorf]

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I'm new to these forums, but I was hoping to find somewhere to pose some questions, so I think I will just jump in here.

After 30 years of being a Trek fan, I find that the thing that attracts me the most is the continuity and canon consistency. I avoid most of the books, comics, etc because of it. At any rate...

Are we to just assume that the movie is a complete reboot and that it is going to ignore the canon? Enterprise wasn't built in Iowa, it was built in San Fran piece by piece and assembled in space according to various TOS episodes like Tomorrow is Yesterday, and The Ultimate Computer. I don't really care for canon violations so that automatically knocks off points for the new movie. Though I am holding back any firm opinion until I see it.

And that scene must be about what... 2250? That was about when he came back from Tarsus lV.

*shrugs*

 

[Kelso]

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^ Welcome to the forum.

This movie will see the beginning of a new universe. The previous continuity still happened in the old universe.

 

[gastrof]

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...Are we to just assume that the movie is a complete reboot and that it is going to ignore the canon? Enterprise wasn't built in Iowa, it was built in San Fran piece by piece and assembled in space according to various TOS episodes like Tomorrow is Yesterday, and The Ultimate Computer. I don't really care for canon violations...

According to this film, something happens in the Picard era (or later) that requires Spock to travel back in time and set things right.

The "something" causes a domino effect- the timeline is altered in certain ways, the results being that the Enterprise is built elsewhere, it looks a bit different, and many things in Kirk's life are different. Spock now has to do damage control. It's too late to restore the original timeline, so he tries to get things as close to "back on track" as possible.

Certain things have been permanently changed, tho', meaning portions of what we know is now up for grabs. Certain things must not have happened at all, or happened (or will happen) differently.

Canon isn't being violated. It's being overwritten. This is a new timeline. Not a reboot. What we knew WAS good, it's just been changed thru time travel, and now the sky's the limit.

Some have suggested this is sort of an alternate universe, and that the original timeline still exists. This idea may even have some official support, since the official Star Trek Online website includes certain things in its timeline that conflict with the altered history.

Still, as we've seen in previous Trek, a single timeline CAN be altered without bringing alternate universes into the picture. (McCoy's actions in connection with Edith Keeler, for example.)

Unless someone wants to say that the Leonard Nimoy (older) Spock is simply one that LOOKS like "ours", and is actually the Spock of an alternate universe, then it IS actually "our" Trek universe that's being changed.

Personally, I don't like it, but it seems done is done.

 

[Therin of Andor]

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I avoid most of the books, comics, etc because of it.

Then you've missed some very clever, wonderful, entertaining, action-packed, science fiction stories, all of which must, contractually, take their lead from the onscreen canonical facts.

According to this film, something happens in the Picard era (or later) that requires Spock to travel back in time and set things right.

Nope.