Or Excelsiors for whatever dumb reason.Starfleet was still pumping out Miranda class ships at the same time the Ambassador class was developed. They apparently don’t bin old designs that can still do the job.
Or Excelsiors for whatever dumb reason.Starfleet was still pumping out Miranda class ships at the same time the Ambassador class was developed. They apparently don’t bin old designs that can still do the job.
Because they look awesome and they still had the model.Or Excelsiors for whatever dumb reason.
"Looks awesome" is my least favorite reason.Because they look awesome and they still had the model.
Because they look awesome and they still had the model.
Again, not quite my point. The DSC season 1 ships presumably represented the bulk of Starfleet designs in the 2250's and look quite detailed and advanced, yet by TOS (or SNW, even), the design attributes look far more simplistic and less advanced. It's simply a visual disconnect that doesn't work for me, based on 50-odd years of Star Trek design attributes advancing in a relatively logical progression chronologically. And it's not just the ships. This kind of thing is why prequels almost never make logical sense.
They also used the original model on TNG and DS9. If the Flashback model hadn’t been built they would have scanned the Enterprise-B/Lakota.Actually, what they had was the newer Greg Jein model built for VOY "Flashback." That's what they scanned into CGI for the DS9 Dominion war fleets.
Exactly this. Things don't always look "more advanced" to my eyes. For instance, the Bird of Prey in Balance of Terror looks more advanced that the Constitution class, yet plays a cat and mouse game. The Galaxy class looks huge and unweildly and doesn't speak to "more advanced" to me. Yet it is treated like top of the line.I’ve always enjoyed the creative aspects of Star Trek and thinking how everything can fit together into a rich tapestry despite the often haphazard development of the series over many decades, and with dozens of writers and artists.
Fair enough, I’m seeing “different” rather than more advanced.
We know all these ships are ultimately the arbitrary whims of producers and designers. The NX-01 might have literally been the Akira from First Contact had Doug Drexler not stepped in.
I’ve always enjoyed the creative aspects of Star Trek and thinking how everything can fit together into a rich tapestry despite the often haphazard development of the series over many decades, and with dozens of writers and artists.
In what way? They still have the same details present in the DSC ships.(or SNW, even)
In what way? They still have the same details present in the DSC ships.
I'm seeing zero resemblance between the Radiant and the Discoprise. Would you care to elaborate on what you see that's similar? Genuinely curious.
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The Bridge area is pretty damn similar to that of the Enterprise. Plus, I've seen the interior images Bill Krause put into the windows of his model, very SNW.
The lower saucer/Deflector dish area also seems similar to that of the Farragut. Her torpedo tube's are pretty much exactly like those of the Enterprise, plus she has ball turrets, similar to those from SNW.
She also has slanted nacelle pylons, and overall a much more detailed hull and blue glowing nacelles.
If she had a more metallic look to her, she'd look perfectly fine right next to the SNW Enterprise.
Looks like an X-Wing in some ways.![]()
The Bridge area is pretty damn similar to that of the Enterprise. Plus, I've seen the interior images Bill Krause put into the windows of his model, very SNW.
The lower saucer/Deflector dish area also seems similar to that of the Farragut. Her torpedo tube's are pretty much exactly like those of the Enterprise, plus she has ball turrets, similar to those from SNW.
She also has slanted nacelle pylons, and overall a much more detailed hull and blue glowing nacelles.
If she had a more metallic look to her, she'd look perfectly fine right next to the SNW Enterprise.
The spaceframes and shells were still obviously serviceable for a long time, and quite modular by design for easy installation and replacement. The internals could have been easily upgraded over time, but still appear completely identical on the outside.Starfleet was still pumping out Miranda class ships at the same time the Ambassador class was developed. They apparently don’t bin old designs that can still do the job.
The Radiant model was used in the new Stargazer’s ready room to depict a past Stargazer, along with Picard’s. So whatever ‘Tycho fleet’ is, is irrelevant. The design is canon to the prime universe, and is clearly based on the TOS aesthetic rather than the DSC/SNW aesthetic.With the Radiant, you have to remember that this is something that fits in nicely with Bill Krause's Tycho fleet. Although it lifts a lot of inspiration from TOS, it's more his thing than either TOS or SNW.
It's definitely worth checking out his other stuff if you haven't![]()
What's a Tycho fleet?With the Radiant, you have to remember that this is something that fits in nicely with Bill Krause's Tycho fleet. Although it lifts a lot of inspiration from TOS, it's more his thing than either TOS or SNW.
It's definitely worth checking out his other stuff if you haven't![]()
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