It doesn't look big...
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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Tough little ship.
Yeah, it was previously established as their ride in DS9's Past Prologue.
"Commandeer; nautical term. We're going to commandeer that ship."
Problem solved. They stole it.
Problem solved. They stole it.
Yup, on Mirror Trek BBS they're complaining that the rebel Duras Sisters' super dreadnought battlecruiser was a clear Canon Violation!
While I agree with your overall assessment - it's known that Star Trek movies is where Shatner and Nimoy made most of their money (I think just their salaries accounted for like 25-30% of the TOS movie budgets) - I bet it was still pretty expensive actually location shooting on the boat, even if the rental itself wasn't outrageous.
Nah, it was far more expensive to build the stellar cartography set than to rent the boat. Could they have saved money by not bothering with that sequence at all and just have it be a small ceremony in Ten-Forward? Definitely. But it didn't really impact the movie's budget like others things like the aforementioned reshoots did. The problem was that the movie had a small budget to begin with, forcing the producers and other bean-counters to cut corners wherever they could while still trying to make the movie look more than a two-part television episode.
Half the time they couldn't even afford to turn the Enterprise's lights on...
Hopefully they don't use this guy.
Wait...lights are supposed to be on?
I believe the story is that the Duras sisters were supposed to have been in a Vorcha-class ship, which they obviously already had a model of....but would have had to blow it up. To avoid that, they just stuck with the BoP and the existing footage that had been used a mere 1 movie/3 years prior.
Honestly, had they simply shown the BoP landing more shots and having a few more tricks up their sleeves to thwart the E-D crew's attempts to defend themselves, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. Why the D only fires ONCE the entire time is ridiculous. Plus the BoP misses a good number of shots she takes!
Honestly, had they simply shown the BoP landing more shots and having a few more tricks up their sleeves to thwart the E-D crew's attempts to defend themselves, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. Why the D only fires ONCE the entire time is ridiculous. Plus the BoP misses a good number of shots she takes!
Urgh. From Terry Matalas:
The Enterprise was not "scrappy"! WTF? Underdog? When they were writing TOS the Enterprise was supposed to be the largest thing put in space by the Federation. Where the heck do we get "underdog" from that?
The only time she was ever outclassed was when some super power like the Fesarius or the Metrons showed up or when she was outnumbered 3 to 1.
In her day she was HUGE. And in real life she still is! It wasn't until Star Trek started getting Star Destroyer envy that we had anything bigger.
People are weird.
The Enterprise was not "scrappy"! WTF? Underdog? When they were writing TOS the Enterprise was supposed to be the largest thing put in space by the Federation. Where the heck do we get "underdog" from that?
The only time she was ever outclassed was when some super power like the Fesarius or the Metrons showed up or when she was outnumbered 3 to 1.
In her day she was HUGE. And in real life she still is! It wasn't until Star Trek started getting Star Destroyer envy that we had anything bigger.
People are weird.
a heavy cruiser is not a "underdog
ok maybe in the 2280s to 2290s but still.
ok maybe in the 2280s to 2290s but still.
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The Klingons called the refit a "battle cruiser" instead of a "garbage scow" in STIII.
What? He's talking out his butt again..
Tos Enterprise wasn't small and scrappy, it was a modern ship of the line that the klingons and others feared. Even by ST 6 time. It was never an underdog. Ugh..
Tos Enterprise wasn't small and scrappy, it was a modern ship of the line that the klingons and others feared. Even by ST 6 time. It was never an underdog. Ugh..
The Disco crew were practically drooling when they saw the Enterprise at the beginning of Season 2 of Discovery.
Hell, the show made a point to mention they kept her out of the Klingon War because she was "the best of Starfleet." Underdog? I think not.
Lord Terry, you should know better if you're gonna be the Patron Saint of Star Trek.
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In TOS, visitors would marvel about the Enterprise being a city in space.
Just to bring the topic back to PIC, Bernd has now added all the starships seen in Season 3 to his list on Ex Astris Scientia! He doesn't add any BTS information on the starships nor anything said on twitter by Matalas or Dave Blass. He does mention something being 'almost official lore'. I do take Bernd's opinion in high regard given the amount of work he's consistently put into his site and I use it as a resource often and browse through it while I'm at work 
