We saw a model of the Stargazer in the teaser, it was unchanged.
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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The front shuttle bay door looked a little off-center to the left of centerline. I think it’s a new model - the original one is likely broken or lost. Aside from that one little thing, it was immaculately done.
According to MA, the Ready Room model hasn't been accounted for since the end of TNG. My guess was that the PIC model is a retconned update intended to be the same model as the one from the -D. It's clearly made from the same AMT Enterprise-refit model (dig those panel lines!), but with the correct registry number, and a gold finish to be classy instead of being painted flat yellow (so much for Sternbach's retcon about it being special warp-speed test paint on the NCC-7100).
The detail differs a bit from the shooting model (five square hatches on the saucer top rim, rather than five single ball turrets), meaning it's in fact truer to that old desktop piece of plastic than to what we saw in action in TNG!
Although there's no way to see such detail in the episodes that feature this ship or ships of this class, we did see the Hathaway fire a wargames pseudo-beam from where a ventral rim phaser would be... So perhaps those guns were added or removed in a refit? "Added" would cover "The Battle" where the turrets are theoretically there. They'd also cover Picard's reference to "main" phasers in that episode, these single balls being "secondary"; without them, there are no good candidates for non-main guns on the ship.
A new model probably would be perfectly symmetrical before the addition of the ventral doohickey. Or at least it's damned difficult to invent a reason for why something would be off-center, regardless of the manufacturing method.
Timo Saloniemi
Although there's no way to see such detail in the episodes that feature this ship or ships of this class, we did see the Hathaway fire a wargames pseudo-beam from where a ventral rim phaser would be... So perhaps those guns were added or removed in a refit? "Added" would cover "The Battle" where the turrets are theoretically there. They'd also cover Picard's reference to "main" phasers in that episode, these single balls being "secondary"; without them, there are no good candidates for non-main guns on the ship.
A new model probably would be perfectly symmetrical before the addition of the ventral doohickey. Or at least it's damned difficult to invent a reason for why something would be off-center, regardless of the manufacturing method.
Timo Saloniemi
I said this on another thread but the sizes given for discovery are just using a Different measurement scale and which I’ll call “discovery meters”. Additionally, I believe the reason interiors don’t always match up perfectly is that Starfleet ships sizes (old scale) are in “federation meters” which are longer than Earth meters. This would explain the Oberth class problem as if you take its size at face value the turbo lifts wouldn’t fit inside the pylons.
Additionally, it really bugged me how all starship interiors from between the Tos movies and TNG all look alike. I would be glad if they replaced that generic look with a blue-green proto lcars interface. But please don’t mess with the uniforms. And don’t use the collar from the movies. The collars must be either the tapestry versions, or the Jack crusher version depending on when in the timeline Picard season 2 will visit
Well, nowhere near as ugly as Oh's Cylon warbird. Still doesnt look very Romulan. Needs wings that are folded in. And come on for Q's sake make it green at least!
Why? Variety.
I like these flat ships. Like a modern take on the Bird of Prey.
Yeah, the TOS Bird-of-Prey wasn't green in either the 1966 or Remastered version and the TOS-style Bird-of-Prey in PIC wasn't green, either. Not every Romulan ship needs to be or should be green just because the TNG Era and ENT led us to believe they were.
Besides, the Romulan Star Empire is gone. I doubt their military budget is allowing for a lot of Warbirds to be constructed or even repaired and reused. Much smaller, simpler ships can get a lot done when your nation-state is in tatters and billions are dead or relocated as refugees.
Besides, the Romulan Star Empire is gone. I doubt their military budget is allowing for a lot of Warbirds to be constructed or even repaired and reused. Much smaller, simpler ships can get a lot done when your nation-state is in tatters and billions are dead or relocated as refugees.
In terms of the character of Commodore Oh / General Nedar, it makes sense for her to only be able to commandeer humble support vessels that were part of the Reclamation Project, and for there to be no big warbirds as part of that project. A fleet copy-pasted from a few dozen shuttlebuses is cool: it's enough to deal with the Advanced Synths, even if Oh tries to put a bit of overkill into it, yet it shows that the villain no longer really works for the mighty Romulan Star Empire.
Where the perhaps more warlike twin-boom ships came from is less clear. Does this weird group of fanatics have 24/7 access to a fleet of combat vessels after all? Or were those, too, available in some quantity around the Artifact, performing perimeter patrol duties not worthy of a bigger ship type?
Now, by all means copy-paste the fleet out of these two types plus Oh's own ship. Just don't do the Starfleet task force that way! Riker's own ship needs to be distinct and distinctly badass. And him having but a dozen ships to oppose Oh's hordes makes things way more interesting. Now, where did I put that time machine...?
Timo Saloniemi
Where the perhaps more warlike twin-boom ships came from is less clear. Does this weird group of fanatics have 24/7 access to a fleet of combat vessels after all? Or were those, too, available in some quantity around the Artifact, performing perimeter patrol duties not worthy of a bigger ship type?
Now, by all means copy-paste the fleet out of these two types plus Oh's own ship. Just don't do the Starfleet task force that way! Riker's own ship needs to be distinct and distinctly badass. And him having but a dozen ships to oppose Oh's hordes makes things way more interesting. Now, where did I put that time machine...?
Timo Saloniemi
It looks very Romulan to me. Compare it to the Nemesis warbird, and Jarok’s scout ship.
also this ship is green, it’s a very dark green, but it is green.
Well it looks better than Oh's god-awful ugly ship. Oh's ship just didnt look very romulan. Id like to see at least one ship with the wings folded inward at the back, a true succescor to the d'deridex, not ugly like the valdore.
Ships don't have to follow a straight lineage.
I just want to see something that looks more imposing than the d'deridex i don't care if they don't have to follow a straight lineage, Id like to see them get bigger.
The D'Deridex is one of the dumber Romulan designs. Passing on it was a better choice, in my opinion.
But the D'Deridex's wings don't do that.
They left all their green paint on Romulus.
