We never saw the Enterprise and the BOP in close enough proximity to even venture a guess.
I like to think there are multiple versions in assorted sizes just like the Klingon BOP.
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I like to think there are multiple versions in assorted sizes just like the Klingon BOP.
This is even more evidence we shouldn't take their appearance inside the Narada seriously. They're just Easter Eggs. IF they were intended to be there and actually exist as the ships they appear to be then it would make Nero's ship ridiculously larger than it already is, but let's not take anything we see in that scene too seriously.
They're like the roller coaster turboshafts in DSC. The less we think about them and how everything works in that scene the better.
They're like the roller coaster turboshafts in DSC. The less we think about them and how everything works in that scene the better.
I believe even the BoP was given two different designations to indicate one size vs. another.We never saw the Enterprise and the BOP in close enough proximity to even venture a guess.
I like to think there are multiple versions in assorted sizes just like the Klingon BOP.
I believed they were sized to be consistent with the plot.
The Infamous Star Trek Plot Size.
It seems to grow consistently with each passing decade.
I believe in the next Trek series it will be done in a "Choose Your Own Ship Size" feature allowing the audience to scale it to their preference.
Heh ...
I believe in the next Trek series it will be done in a "Choose Your Own Ship Size" feature allowing the audience to scale it to their preference.
Isn't that what many of us do already?
That not a "feature", that's a given.
Yes, but now it will be officialHeh ...
Isn't that what many of us do already?
That not a "feature", that's a given.
IIRC, the Narada is 7 miles long. Half of that is angry spikes but even 2 miles of interior volume is large enough for parked 68m BoP's and Vulcan landers (which I figured were captured during the attack on Vulcan, since they were there on Vulcan in Discovery as well)This is even more evidence we shouldn't take their appearance inside the Narada seriously. They're just Easter Eggs. IF they were intended to be there and actually exist as the ships they appear to be then it would make Nero's ship ridiculously larger than it already is, but let's not take anything we see in that scene too seriously.
They're like the roller coaster turboshafts in DSC. The less we think about them and how everything works in that scene the better.
I'm thinking another 100 to 200 years for that.
I'm gonna give my best to see it though though.
There were only two official designations of Klingon BOP classes. There was the "B'rel" class, that was considered a "scout class vessel" ("wessel"?), supporting "about a dozen officers and men" from TSFS (read - tiny), and later the "K'Vort" class versions which appeared to have a wingspan that rivaled the diameter of the Galaxy class saucer section. No other official names (or sizes) exist, to my knowledge, although FASA did postulate there were three distinct sizes of the design that they "stole" from the Romulans, and that the Romulans were particularly unhappy about having to go up against larger Klingon versions of the ships they designed.
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Yeah the B'Rel was very small but the K'Vort was considerably larger although it must be said the wessel had a pretty limited volume in comparison to its size due to its design and overall shape.
Those are the only two we ever saw officially and it was often hard to tell them apart unless we were given some indication of the crew size on screen, like we did in Search for Spock when Kirk asked Sulu what the crew complement was, it was a dozen officers and men which meant Kruge's wessel was probably a B'Rel.
Same goes for the one we saw in The Voyage Home as the Whale tank only just fit inside the hold which points to it also being a B'Rel, plus we see them use the ship to take Spock back to Vulcan at the end of The Search for Spock and it looked pretty small when it landed.
I think the K'Vort class wessels were used and seen more in TNG onwards.
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Its definitely possible as its status as a reliable workhorse means a lot would have been in service in the mid to late 2300's.Are we going to see famous Excelsior-class in Star Trek Picard show?
Although they had already been demoted from Heavy Cruiser after the launch of much larger designs.
The problem with the BoP was that it was the only Klingon ship model available for filming during TNG until the Vor’cha, so when they needed ships of a much different size for the same episode (“Yesterday’s Enterprise”), they could only change the scale of the same ship. It was an incredibly stupid and cheap way to go (since they barely had enough budget to build a new model for the Enterprise-C), but there you go.
And then in “The Defector,” they had three BoPs that were the same wingspan as a Romulan Warbird. Those ships would have even been far larger than the large K’Vort class. IMHO, they looked ridiculous. It would have been a perfect opportunity to showcase a new large Klingon battlecruiser, but they went on the cheap again.
And then in “The Defector,” they had three BoPs that were the same wingspan as a Romulan Warbird. Those ships would have even been far larger than the large K’Vort class. IMHO, they looked ridiculous. It would have been a perfect opportunity to showcase a new large Klingon battlecruiser, but they went on the cheap again.
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Well we have just seen a much older original Romulan BoP so its definitely possible.
They are a solid workhorse design and as long as they have a use its worth keeping them in service.
Yes..but used by pirates..
I doubt the Federation would so willingly give up a 500+ meter long heavy cruiser which as recently as 2379 was still a front line vessel
Are we going to see famous Excelsior-class in Star Trek Picard show?
As much as I love the class and think they where the most vital ship of the dominion war with he mirandas, I think we have seen the end of them and the Miranda. At over 100 years I think their time is due.
Still I would not be surprised to see some civilian owned Miranda's and O berths.
We also got a pretty good idea of the smaller one's size when they evacuated after the water landing in TVH.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the size of the larger one was determined by the model's size compared to the Ent-D model's size.
