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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

One of many weird things in that book that don’t make any sense and are best forgotten.

I think the only thing I liked was the idea that the bridge observation/conference room table was the same from the D and you could still see the scratches and damage from the crash landing in it
 
I think the only thing I liked was the idea that the bridge observation/conference room table was the same from the D and you could still see the scratches and damage from the crash landing in it

I did like that as well actually, especially as in real life it was actually the same prop reused (and even became the E-D’s table again in the ENT finale).
 
If Discoprise is canon, I want to see NCC-1701-A version of it :)

NCC-1701-A looks like it does in the movies, until it doesn't.

And hey, there's nothing stopping anyone from pulling the original 1701 out again. Things don't have to be so literal when it comes to the effects design.

They are all over the place in live action as well, Spock's first day on the ship and the events post-"The Cage" both take place on the potato peeler version of the Enterprise. While their introduction in "If Memory Serves...", has the original version of the ship taking part in events.

Yup. What version is the true NCC-1701? All of them.

IIRC the "writers bible" for the E-E has a backstory that she was very far along in construction when 1701-D was destroyed. Starfleet then immediately renamed the ship that was under construction from what she was originally supposed to be, something like Honorius or Sentinel, to Enterprise.

Honorius: the Roman emperor so terrible he let Rome get sacked for the first time in 800 years. Yeah, that's a name upgrade.
 
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The thing is...the 1701 refit and 1701-A actually look like reasonable refits of the DiscoPrise without essentially building an entirely new ship with the barest fragments of the old one.

If anything the Discovery Enterprise ...makes MORE sense than the OG one..

But that's just me thinking from a design standpoint..that's all.
 
The thing is...the 1701 refit and 1701-A actually look like reasonable refits of the DiscoPrise without essentially building an entirely new ship with the barest fragments of the old one.

If anything the Discovery Enterprise ...makes MORE sense than the OG one..

Not in the context of TMP. Where we are told, this is an almost totally new Enterprise. It is supposed to be radically different from the ship in TOS.
 
Not in the context of TMP. Where we are told, this is an almost totally new Enterprise. It is supposed to be radically different from the ship in TOS.

I know, I clarified my post with an edit in that I was talking about from a design point of view only.
 
I know, I clarified my post with an edit in that I was talking about from a design point of view only.

For me, they kinda dropped the ball on the Enterprise. And it isn't a bad ship in its own right, it just doesn't fit with TOS. I think if it had straight pylons with the split, that I could've seen it as a predecessor to Kirk's TOS version of the ship. The angled nacelle struts just totally kill the illusion.
 
Well the TMP refit...nothing remained of the old ship. Literally nothing at all. Granted they excused this by saying it was "nearly a totally new Enterprise"..but at least here in the Discovery version you can see how the "neck" is basically the same, the pylons are in roughly the same position and shape, etc. It's more believable here that the TMP Enterprise is a refit to the DiscoPrise while still being the same ship.
 
Well the TMP refit...nothing remained of the old ship. Literally nothing at all. Granted they excused this by saying it was "nearly a totally new Enterprise"..but at least here in the Discovery version you can see how the "neck" is basically the same, the pylons are in roughly the same position and shape, etc. It's more believable here that the TMP Enterprise is a refit to the DiscoPrise while still being the same ship.

But the movie never asks you to believe it is the same ship. They really go out of their way to tell you it isn't. I don't think that is something the Discovery folks recognized when doing their version. One of the TMP plot points hangs on Kirk not knowing the ship to a degree he doesn't even know where the turbolifts are at.
 
IIRC the "writers bible" for the E-E has a backstory that she was very far along in construction when 1701-D was destroyed. Starfleet then immediately renamed the ship that was under construction from what she was originally supposed to be, something like Honorius or Sentinel, to Enterprise.
Actually, you got me thinking. According to the log, the Enterprise had been in space for a year, which further compresses the timeframe.



If the Sovereign beat them out of the gate, it means maybe three years between "Relics" and the launch of the class.

This is why I believe the Sovereign class was originally intended as a replacement for the Excelsior and not the Galaxy. I doubt that Starfleet would have been working on the Galaxy replacement during it's launch. As the Sovereign is quite a bit smaller it is likely it would have been designed to take on the deep space duties of the Excelsior and not the deep space exploration that the Galaxy was intended for. As the Borg and Dominion threat emerged the Sovereign class was adapted for battle during it's design and then more suited for the Federation flagship after the Ent-D was destroyed, especially as the existing Galaxy ships both in service and being constructed would need refitted for war.

Had the Enterprise-D survived I'm sure it would have been refitted and remained the flagship.

That's just my theory anyway.
 
I'll admit it wouldn't break my heart to see a short trek series where the Enterprise is back in the grey paint and with more TOS style graphics. Having the pylons straight..eh..I can go either way.

I will say I'm a bit tired of the whole "the viewscreen is really just a glass window with graphics over it. Please just...have it be a normal view screen.
 
Can we have rectangular viewscreens back? Sheesh. Every viewscreen anymore has to be shaped like a rhombus with a drinking issue.
 
"But sharp edges are cool!"

[*Points to the Kelvin Timeline Enterprise viewscreen*] :shrug:
 
I mean, a HUD display only the bridge is probably one of the most *reasonable* changes in the newer Treks. Having both visibility for close docking (which we see repeatedly) or in a compromised-sensor situation (remember when Riker’s ship in the war games episode was made to seem like another ship and they explicitly say they wouldn’t know unless someone looked out a window) and view screen and heads-up capability.
 
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