A deleted scene in which he wore a suit to a wedding?
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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A deleted scene in which he wore a suit to a wedding?
While Wesley’s only scene with dialogue was deleted, he’s up there with the rest of the wedding party in a Starfleet dress uniform in the final cut of the film.
I haven't forgotten about it.
Wesley showing up in Nemesis could be nothing more than a drop in visit for the wedding itself and nothing more (and he could have similarly visited his mother once in a while before then).
Yes, the deleted scenes indicate he came back to serve in SF, but since they hadn't been showed in the actual film, that's not technically canon and therefore very open to interpretation.
Besides, would serving in SF be 'enough' for Wesley? He became a traveller partly because going into SF was not something he really wanted. To him, he already did that while serving on the bridge of the Ent-D before going to the Academy. By the time he nearly finished his Academy training, he realized that SF wasn't for him.
You don't get powers and go off to explore the universe and suddenly coming back to mortal existence to do the same but in a much more limited way.
If Wesley HAD rejoined SF for a while, why didn't he help them advance their propulsion technology and move them away from dilithium and M/AM?
I can see potentially Wesley coming back to help SF improve its technology and understanding of the universe... but past that, I don't see him being able to integrate that well into SF after having abilities to do virtually whatever he wanted without the pressure of hyrerachy.
He'd return periodically perhaps for visits and 'relaying what he learned' perhaps... but apart from that, I wouldn't see him coming back to SF.
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Yeah, I don't get why Troi was to blame for crashing both ships.
The ENT-D was badly damaged because Riker allowed a BoP to pummel it long enough to induce a core breach (instead of firing 6 or 12 Photon torpedoes at that measly BoP at the same time and fire several sustained phaser beams - instant kill - or at least, severely disable it and transport the klingons onboard into the brig until they can be trialed or handed over to Klingon authorities so they deal with them). Deanna merely made the best out of a worst possible situation.
And in Nemesis, as you point out, she rammed the Scimitar on Picard's orders.
In both instances, casualties were minimal (as you mentioned), and indeed, she should have been commended. Riker and Worf on the other hand should have been dealt with more harshly by SF for the ENT-D destruction in the first place (Worf for his negligence in checking Geordi over for surveillance devices and monitoring him after being on the BoP for a while) and Riker for not using the ENT-D powerful weapons to just properly disable or destroy the BoP (which the ENT-D would have been able to do even with shields down and survive too).
Sure you do. I read stories like that all the time.
And wasn't he in uniform at the wedding?
No doubt written by people who have 0 clue what its like to get powers and off to explore the cosmos not bound by most rules and regulations most people are subject to.
In fact, it would be difficult to write about something like that from our current perspective to begin with... but again, most writers tend to ignore epigenetics and neuroscience and just make a lot of the stuff up in the hopes it will stick (which is why I can't really get into something like that anymore.
Yes, and?
A LOT of people were in uniforms. It was a wedding between two SF officers... like tuxedoes are worn usually today for weddings (which are ridiculous blight on society that should have been eradicated long ago), I wouldn't be surprised if those uniforms were optional and not just confined to SF personnel at the wedding.
Wesley also could have chosen to appear in the way that would be most appeasing to his 'mortal' friends and family - even though I would have just said: 'who cares. You shouldn't have to conform to other people's expectations, and besides, in UFP which is supposedly open to infinite diversity in infinite combinations... choosing forms to 'appease' a few people doesn't make sense.
Take VOY's crew interaction with species 8472... I would have enjoyed to see Chakotay encourage Valerie to revert to her real 8472 form so he could get to know her like that instead.
As opposed to?
Indicates he is in Starfleet. Otherwise, kind of inappropriate to wear a uniform of an organization that no longer works for him.
Um, he's in the background in uniform.
Already said it would be difficult to write a story on something like that because powers like that don't exist in reality.
No conceptual understanding of how this would fundamentally change humans on a behavioral level (beyond some cliche'd nonsense) or how neuroscience and epigenetics work.
Inject some realism into it and then extrapolate with fictional aspects to TRY and make it convincing.
Otherwise, they are just shooting in the dark.
Point being, again, the uniform could be nothing more than a today's equivalent of a tuxedo and ANYONE could have been wearing it.
It doesn't mean that uniform was unique to Starfleet itself.
Sounds like nonsense.
Its not, because UFP and Starfleet probably wouldn't be so closed minded to not allow someone to dress formally (aka, uniform) to honour 2 SF officers getting married on that particular occasion.
We also don't know if that was a SF uniform or just specific dress uniform quite literally anyone could choose to wear (or even if it WAS a Sf unifrom that only SF officers would be allowed to wear it).
SF officers often wore garments and clothes to honor other cultures and their traditions... why wouldn't other people and alien cultures be able to do the same for SF in turn?
Alright, now, time to set the record straight on this one...
Veterans wear their uniforms all the time (IF they were honorably discharged, that is). In the US, you can see them at Memorial Day and Pearl Harbor Day remembrances most frequently. Completely legal by the Uniform Code and many countries do it. They've earned that right! I laugh every time I see those old Soviet Corporals from the Cold War wearing medals at parades and living history demonstrations that cover the entire front of the uniform. Half of them are probably for "good typing" (1st class, 2nd class, etc.). The only real limitation is if they can still fit in them.
If Wesley was let off the hook for a brief time by the Traveler to attend the wedding, his wearing of the uniform is 100% completely appropriate, to honor his comrades and their collective service together, and with centuries of precedent through (not-a-)military tradition.
Some germane reading material on the subject. Military weddings are cited in particular as allowable uniform-wearing events for all honorably discharged vets and retirees.
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Well, I appreciate the rationalizations but I'm going with Occams razor.
300 pages even though star ships and their design were an after thought of this show lol
"Can we uh do a time warp so we can shoot near the studio?"
"Can we uh do a time warp so we can shoot near the studio?"
No they bloody weren't. They wouldn't have made that new ship interior otherwise.
Season 3 will have more ship action according to the showrunner.
So the new Stargazer was just 'an afterthought?'
Also both seasons have given us new ship designs.
Season 2 gave us less, but there were still new designs (not even counting the STO designs)
Season 1 gave us 4 new Romulan designs, a redesigned TOS BoP and Borg Cube, Seven's ship, a new Starfleet shuttle and La Sirena.
Season 2 gave us the new Borg ship, the Stargazer, the Excelsior-II and a new starfleet shuttle.
Plus several STO designs appeared in Season 2, which aren't technically new for the franchise, but they are new for canon and people who haven't played or seen STO.
Season 2 gave us less, but there were still new designs (not even counting the STO designs)
Season 1 gave us 4 new Romulan designs, a redesigned TOS BoP and Borg Cube, Seven's ship, a new Starfleet shuttle and La Sirena.
Season 2 gave us the new Borg ship, the Stargazer, the Excelsior-II and a new starfleet shuttle.
Plus several STO designs appeared in Season 2, which aren't technically new for the franchise, but they are new for canon and people who haven't played or seen STO.
Meh... Don't feed the day-old trolls.
They blew it up in 5 seconds into the first episode of season 2
Reusing the sets for season 3 doesn't mean anything
All the cgi assets and sets are disco retreads relax.
If I wanted establishing shots that linger on good looking ships I can watch other trek.
If I want quick glimpses of poorly lit discovery ships I'll watch Picard
If season 3 has ship action I'll delete my account
