Agreed. I'll go with that then. I'm starting to damage the drywall I've been banging my head into anyway.
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Agreed. I'll go with that then. I'm starting to damage the drywall I've been banging my head into anyway.
There are some nice ones that I like in game.. But just not these ones....
... They do have a Vesta class Aventine on STO... Just saying..
... They do have a Vesta class Aventine on STO... Just saying..
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Dave Blass confirmed on twitter that the USS Rustazh is a Klingon reference.
Whether it's meant to be named after that specific Klingon in The Final Reflection, not sure.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1500946679519797249
Whether it's meant to be named after that specific Klingon in The Final Reflection, not sure.
https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1500946679519797249
Can't wait for these 25th century ships to show up in some rushjob Strange New Worlds scene
Dave Blass posts historical ship display images that we didn't see in the episode. The Enterprise is her DSC and SNW configuration while the Constellation is exactly how we saw her in TOS.
Memory Alpha says that one of the ships in "The Star Gazer" is the USS Rustazh. A nod to The Final Reflection, maybe. If so, I wonder how Starfleet wound up naming a ship after a Klingon Great House...
I mean, by 2401, the Federation have, with a few years' exceptions, been allies with the Klingon Empire for 108 years. That's plenty of time for Federates and Klingons to forge relationships and impress one-another enough to name things after each other. Maybe, for instance, it was the IKS Rustazh that provided the desperate last defense that saved Trill from being conquered by the Jem'Hadar during the Dominion War after its assigned Federation defense fleet was destroyed. Or maybe a Klingon warrior named Rustazh saved the Federation President from being assassinated by dishonorable Romulans during a diplomatic conference. Or maybe General Rustazh served as Supreme Allied Commander for the Setlik Sector during the war, same way Martok was Supreme Allied Commander at Starbase Deep Space 9. Or maybe the IKS Rustazh, in defiance of the High Council, provided the atmospheric shielding that saved 1.2 billion Romulans on the planet Romii from being destroyed in the Romulan Supernova.
There could be all sorts of stories that could led to a Federation starsip being named the USS Rustazh.
(Personally, I wonder if there's a USS Martok and a USS Worf?)
Dave Blass posts historical ship display images that we didn't see in the episode. The Enterprise is her DSC and SNW configuration while the Constellation is exactly how we saw her in TOS.
Definitely sounds to me like the TOS design is still in continuity, but they're just using the DIS/SNW design most of the time now for branding/synergy purposes.
Yep. This is how she looks for now and she'll be the classic TOS Enterprise by the time Kirk takes command. They're just looking to make more money by issuing merchandise of their own version of the ship.
But.. But.. Robert April commanded the Enterprise first....
Don't like that the only ship they seem to have futzed with is the tos Connie enterprise.. Boo
Don't like that the only ship they seem to have futzed with is the tos Connie enterprise.. Boo
Since they're still alive...probably not yet.
As for the Rustazh: Agreed that there could be any number of Klingons with that name; I was just curious as to how Krenn sutai-Rustazh from TFR might have conceivably had a Federation ship named after him. In the novel, he's not exactly a friend of the Federation, but he's not really an enemy either. I suppose there could be any number of reasons why Starfleet might one day name a ship after him. Perhaps he later becomes the Klingon ambassador to the Federation?
That said, I can't 'wait to see a Klingon ship named after a human. I wonder who that would be. Perhaps we might one day see...the IKS Rachel Garrett?
Since they're still alive...probably not yet.
As for the Rustazh: Agreed that there could be any number of Klingons with that name; I was just curious as to how Krenn sutai-Rustazh from TFR might have conceivably had a Federation ship named after him. In the novel, he's not exactly a friend of the Federation, but he's not really an enemy either. I suppose there could be any number of reasons why Starfleet might one day name a ship after him. Perhaps he later becomes the Klingon ambassador to the Federation?
That said, I can't 'wait to see a Klingon ship named after a human. I wonder who that would be. Perhaps we might one day see...the IKS Rachel Garrett?
Definitely! And I absolutely believe that the Klingons would name a ship the IKS Benjamin Sisko or the IKS Curzon Dax.
I mean, names are also for recognizing historical figures, important ones, not just people we are friends with.
There's a starship Surak in the TNG Era and a Shran during the DSC timeframe.
True, although Surak and Shran are both figures from the history of Federation worlds. I imagine it might be more common to name Starfleet ships after Federation worlds' historical figures than after non-Federation worlds'.
Fun Fact: Jeffrey Combs plays ALL of those ships.
So in seven years the ship gets smaller?
I just ignore the jacked DSC scale for her and for other ships. It's the only way I can stay sane. 
Starships and space stations in Star Trek are almost never in proper scale to one-another. The Enterprise-D in DS9: "Emissary" was far smaller than it ought to have been; the Defiant changed size all the time; the Enterprise-E wasn't nearly as large as it ought to have been during the scenes on the deflector dish in FC; the Defiant was way too small compared to the Enterprise-E in the same film; the Enterprise-D was way too small compared to the starbase in "11001001;" and of course the scale of the Kelvin Timeline Enterprise was all over the place.
So scale issues with the Enterprise and the Discovery are just par for course for the last thirty years.
So scale issues with the Enterprise and the Discovery are just par for course for the last thirty years.
Dave Blass posts historical ship display images that we didn't see in the episode. The Enterprise is her DSC and SNW configuration while the Constellation is exactly how we saw her in TOS.
All eight of those blue plaques were seen in the episode. Unfortunately Blass didn’t add the ship information under each plaque. And some of those choices don’t make a lot of sense. The Reliant was that important? And the Leondegrance? Really? And they still used that Eaves Enterprise-E era design for a ship from 2327 with a registry of NCC-2176?
He also posted the plaques underneath, one of which maps out Uhura's entire post-Enterprise career.Dave Blass posts historical ship display images that we didn't see in the episode. The Enterprise is her DSC and SNW configuration while the Constellation is exactly how we saw her in TOS.
Well, if the Constellation and Voyager were in one of the wide shots I sure didn't see them and certainly couldn't make out detail!
