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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

In some ways it was the Defiant class that started it as a response to the Borg, small fast ship that packs a big punch for its size, quicker to build and with a much smaller crew.
I tend to agree. I think the Enquiry class were a logical follow up to the Defiant's demonstrated ability in the Dominion War, and the need for a singular combat oriented ship.
 
It's kind of a Defiant crossed with a Nova-class starship, at least insofar as the firepower of the former. The smaller size of both classes combined with more formidable weaponry would make a powerful starship even if she didn't have an intimidating size.
 
It's kind of a Defiant crossed with a Nova-class starship, at least insofar as the firepower of the former. The smaller size of both classes combined with more formidable weaponry would make a powerful starship even if she didn't have an intimidating size.

I would even go so far as to say that if we did see a new Enterprise in season 2, there’d be no reason for it to be this huge honking ship like the Enterprise-D. It could just be a smaller, sleeker ship like the Inquiry class.
 
The B-52 is the EXCEPTION that proves the rule. How many other planes/ships of that same age PLUS ANOTHER 30 are in service?

Where are the 50 other classes of starship since Miranda that might/should be those battle scenes but aren’t? Era-appropriate ships that saw or will see in later Trek?

If there’s money in the 2030 remastering of DS9, I’d love it if they peppered those shots with more ships. Throw in some Sovereigns and Ambassadors, Cheyennes and Balmungs, Intrepids and Olympics. ...And shield bubbles while we’re at it.
 
Where are the 50 other classes of starship since Miranda that might/should be those battle scenes but aren’t? Era-appropriate ships that saw or will see in later Trek?

Good question.

If there’s money in the 2030 remastering of DS9, I’d love it if they peppered those shots with more ships. Throw in some Sovereigns and Ambassadors, Cheyennes and Balmungs, Intrepids and Olympics.

I doubt that's going to happen. I'm guessing they would try to recreate the battle scenes exactly the way they were originally shown.
 
Good question.



I doubt that's going to happen. I'm guessing they would try to recreate the battle scenes exactly the way they were originally shown.
That’s the 2022 version where they remaster it resolution. I’m talking 2030 where it’s a money-grab, er, “special edition” for the fans.

Actually, per another thread, it might be cool to replace the Bird of Prey in GEN with a larger ship too. Throw in more shots of the D firing as well — we saw exactly one phaser blast in the whole battle for its life in the movie.

...also, the evacuation of Cetacean Ops.
 
That’s the 2022 version where they remaster it resolution. I’m talking 2030 where it’s a money-grab, er, “special edition” for the fans.

I still don't think that's going to happen, unless it's just done by some fans on their own and not authorized or sold by CBS. CBS simply doesn't care that much about DS9. They care more about spending their money on new shows.

Actually, per another thread, it might be cool to replace the Bird of Prey in GEN with a larger ship too. Throw in more shots of the D firing as well — we saw exactly one phaser blast in the whole battle for its life in the movie.

I think the TNG films are owned by Paramount, not CBS. So Paramount would have to authorize any changes to the films, and that definitely isn't going to happen.
 
I still don't think that's going to happen, unless it's just done by some fans on their own and not authorized or sold by CBS. CBS simply doesn't care that much about DS9. They care more about spending their money on new shows.



I think the TNG films are owned by Paramount, not CBS. So Paramount would have to authorize any changes to the films, and that definitely isn't going to happen.
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EDIT: no seriously. CGI’s only going to get cheaper and easier, and there’ll be anniversary editions and whatnot that the studios will try to make a buck on, and I can already see the executive producer in an interview going on about how it’s a “valentine to the fans...”
 
The CG for the visual effects would be more easily doable, yes, but they would need to go through all the original raw footage, vid-capture it, color correct it, remaster and remix the sound, etc., etc... It was a huge undertaking for TNG at the time, and much of those parts wouldn’t have gotten any easier later on. Just pure grunt work and time expended to go through the archives and capture all the necessary assets. I don’t see CBS or Paramount ever footing the bill for that, sadly. Maybe Ira Behr and some other dedicated folks might be able to do a crowdfunding effort to convince TPTB that it’s worth it, but unlikely.
 
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think the TNG films are owned by Paramount, not CBS. So Paramount would have to authorize any changes to the films, and that definitely isn't going to happen.
It's all under Viacom now so if an executive decides its worth it then it has one less obstacle.

But, honestly, I would not bet money on it
 
But exactly how old is the Shenzhou? Is it 25 years old? 50? 75? 100? We’re never told. Whereas the Miranda, Oberth, and Excelsior classes are definitely anywhere between 70 and 100 years old or more during the TNG era. So unless someone mentions the specific age of those DSC ships in dialogue, they’re not a valid comparison. And registry numbers aren’t helpful either, since the older Shenzhou’s is higher than the newer Discovery’s.

I'm still of the opinion that the Discovery and the Glenn were much older, mothballed ships they repurposed for the Spore Drive experiments. It makes the registry number issue go away.

Sure you could build a brand new ship that fits the bill, but if there's a couple old ones that work, why not use those? The Crossfield class could have looked more like the original McQuarrie design before they went to work on it.
 
I'm still of the opinion that the Discovery and the Glenn were much older, mothballed ships they repurposed for the Spore Drive experiments. It makes the registry number issue go away.

Sure you could build a brand new ship that fits the bill, but if there's a couple old ones that work, why not use those? The Crossfield class could have looked more like the original McQuarrie design before they went to work on it.
That would make sense if the Crossfield's were an older hull design and if the spore drive failed (and killed everyone) the ship loss would not be that big of a hit to the fleet.
 
...The catchall fanwank is that this is an old shuttlecarrier design (such as in the fan works of the 1980s), made obsolete and thus available for other purposes - and, because of her pedigree, has prodigious amounts of internal space for harebrained experiments, installed in weird modules that occupy but part of the former hangar and leave the rest of the space full of, well, nothing much. Except for impromptu turborails and corridors to connect the modules, of course.

The aftmost part of the hangar area has been refitted into a shuttle facility for the much more modest needs of the flying lab, but still retains the launch tubes and turntables of a much busier auxiliary craft operator. The neck connecting the hulls is empty on the inside, too, with a large porthole-free hatch as its forward surface, so that the pressurized corridors on each deck run along the sides, with portholes to space from them rather than from possibly more deserving cabins or labs or whatnot.

Also, there was space for 300 experiments originally. Only the spore drive ever mattered, though (that is, it probably was the only one that panned out as an anti-Klingon Wunderwaffe, and it was the only one the CO of the ship cared about). So a second round of gutting probably ensued at some point, leaving the interior even emptier now that the Green Matter Bomb labs and the Tri-isophasic Swirl Phaser test ranges were removed.

Fanwanks aside, the DSC ships come in a great variety of shapes and liveries, befitting of a fleet consisting of ships of varying ages. This matches TNG very nicely, in a fictional century removed by, well, a century. And helps establish a pattern that persists in shows separated by decades ITRW. What is our excuse for the pattern breaking down in TAS? Obviously the low number of designs seen overall. In LDS? So far, the same, I guess. All the other incarnations of Trek are doing just fine in that respect.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Seems like a grill over the navigational deflector would be a no-brainer for the "toughest ship" Starfleet ever built. I also don't see why it can't be retractable, though there may be tech 20 years hence that needs a lot less surface area to function like a normal deflector.
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Seems like a grill over the navigational deflector would be a no-brainer for the "toughest ship" Starfleet ever built. I also don't see why it can't be retractable, though there may be tech 20 years hence that needs a lot less surface area to function like a normal deflector.
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Just thin Vertical Slats as Armor panels would make a AESA style Deflector array MUCH HARDER to target from off-axis shots / energy blasts.

With thin Vertical Slats, you need to be near straight facing the gaps of the slat to bypass the slats to hit the Deflector modules.
 
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