Starship design history in light of Discovery

I much preferred the shorter, wider nacelles. To me it also looked a lot more industrial and less elegant than the Constitution class which i thought was cool. It gave off the vibe that the ship was a workhorse, cheap to build but tough as nails.

 

I like the version with the short nacelles we saw in all the promo material shortly before the show aired (and still shows up in some Promo material, and was even on Computer Displays in some set tours). I would have just moved the nacelles further back wards.

 

I absolutely agree with Gene Roddenberry on this one, only I would go even further. I've never liked the TOS aesthetic at all, and my headcanon is that the Constitution-class has always looked like the TUC Enterprise-A. (Only now, in light of the changes introduced in Discovery, I guess it should probably have a window-viewscreen.)

That NX-01 concept is beautiful.

To be honest, so do I.

 

Wait a second, the nacelles on this, the intercoolers are on the side of the nacelles, sort of like the Defiant in DSC, and the rear of the nacelles are sideways.

I wonder if John did the Defiant redesign.

 

Different Starfleet ships are likely built by different contractors, and therefore don't have the exact same design features etc.

For example, it's clear that the Enterprise-refit and Reliant were built by the same contractors. The Grissom (Oberth-class) was probably built by a different contractor.

You can find examples throughout Trek history of ships having different nacelles types / configurations, completely different bridge modules , etc. I never liked or bought into the idea that all Starfleet ships from a certain era were all designed the same way.

The 1701 refit, the 1701-A and the Excelsior (Trek III) are all contemporaries of each other...and their bridge designs are nothing alike.

 

Is there any fan art out there of TOS-design Constitution class but depicted with ulltra realistic textures?

 

What does "ultra-realistic" mean? My personal favorite is MadKoiFish's version, which is extremely faithful to the original design and texturing, but I suspect you're thinking of something more like Vektor's version, deg3D's TOS.5 or even Serveaux's Phoenix.

 

Well there's this QMX model which was sadly never released.

 

Yeah the Discovery looks WAY better here and also in general the VFX here look better than what we actually get in the show.

 

For those who don't want to click the links, here are those fantastic TOS ships in high detail:















More than good enough to appear in a modern show.

 

I like the TMP/TOS Hybrid one

 

Me too, kind of a modernized Phase II variant for the most part, but keeping the round nacelles.

 

Yes. Remember what 'Captain Merrick' said about Kirk's ship... (paraphrased) 'It's not just a spaceship, procounsel, it is a Starship. A very special ship, and crew.'

 

Best of the best.

 

Here is my idea of progression least to most advanced--just on visual cues.




Daedalus-class


Bonaventure-class



Constitution-class





Einstein-class



???-class



NX-class refit


Shepard-class



These two are very close actually


Baton Rouge-class


Crossfield-class


Constitution-class refit



Constellation-class



Cardenas-class




Walker-class



Excelsior-class




Oberth-class



In my view

This


Docks here:



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But this:


Docks here:

 

The last two are not drastically far off from what we got in Discovery.

 

In the flesh
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=107926&d=1396853677

 

The John Eaves NX-01 concept?

 

yep.

Another take
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=107934&d=1396915642


http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/...th-a-twist&s=ed778f094d559467404caf836aa6c23c

 

I read this originally when my Eaglemoss Shenzhou showed up in the mail, and I continue to be puzzled by this... because nothing on the Shenzhou looks ANYTHING like the F-104. He's talking about the "blades" as being the little fins and shit on all his ship designs, but I don't see that AT ALL in 1950s aircraft. Hell, the F-104 is pretty much a flying lawndart with almost totally cylindrical no-frills body that is, IMO, the most brutally strict example of Area Ruled design in history.

In fact, the Shenzhou and the Walker both kind of remind of the F-14 Tomcat more than anything else, especially with the little "fins" or "blades" as he calls them all over their hulls. Could be Eaves is confused?