Starship design history in light of Discovery

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by INACTIVEUSS Einstein, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. 137th Gebirg

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    You still might be able to find something in the internet archive.
     
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    Drexler has also reposted a good amount of Drex Files stuff (and new stuff) on his Facebook page, set to be publically viewable so you don't have to "friend" him or, possibly, have an account to see it (Facebook is weird and inconsistent with how much "public" stuff they show un-logged in users, but I think it'll work on a computer, but not mobile).
     
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    Colin Merry in the Eaglemoss fan group page made a cool scale chart using images of the Eaglemoss models (and the sizes given on the covers)

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    This rather nicely demonstrates how the S31 cruisers are portrayed as rather too large: for one thing, they are just the basic intel cutter with bits added on, and for another, they never seem to outbulk the Enterprise let alone the hero ship when we get comparison shots. The Eaglemoss dimensions might be considered 200% of the "actual" size.

    Whether the Qugh is that big "actually" is another point to debate. The Klingon ship is almost always closest to the camera in the fight shots with the Gagarin, exaggerating her apparent size - until the shot where she and the two battle cruisers are between the Gagarin and the faraway Discovery, suggesting that they all are at most the size of the former starship. So Eaglemoss stats would be 300-400% of the real deal there. Battle of Binaries has them slightly larger, but still nowhere as large as here, and definitely not in comparison with the Ship of the Dead: in their big warp-in scene, they might be about 1/3 the width of T'Kumva's relic, not more than half the width as in this diagram.

    The rest seems close enough to tango.

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    well the large S31 ships, their saucers were made of mostly drones and were hollow on the inside.
     
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    Some of those lengths are ridiculous. :lol: I just ignore the Eaglemoss specs and try to enjoy the looks of some of the models.
     
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    They get the lengths from CBS, Eaglemoss doesn't just make them up.

    Cryptic gets the same ones for STO, most of the time.
     
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    I mean, it's just for looks anyway.
     
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    503m for the reboot Klingon D7. Nice.

    And of course those numbers are accurate. They're what were used by the CG people so they're pretty absolute. I don't understand why fans want to shink everything down to match the 1960's or 1990's versions of Trek. It ain't that show anymore.
     
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