Starship design history in light of Discovery

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  1. Tuskin38

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    Those weren't there in 'The Cage' and in any other episode that reuses those shots/model, which is why the DSC Connie doesn't have them.

    Eaves earlier concepts still had the spheres, but it was pointed out by his supervisor that The Cage model didn't have them, so he removed them. This is according to, I believe, the Eaglemoss booklet.
     
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    Just make it look like it was in WNMHGB,by ~ 2264.
     
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    Oh, I know they weren't. I was asked the differences with the TOS Enterprise. Except in pilot episode stock images the TOS one had the spherical shapes.
     
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    Yeah I wasn't going to quibble that! ;)
    Of course, we only saw the grills for the first time in WNMHGB - Pike's ship in The Cage had these rectangular shaped details instead
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    It would have perfectly fine for the DSC-Ent to have that style of endcaps instead, or even a completely new design
     
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    Pike's Enterprise or bust.
     
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    That’s the 3-footer, IIRC. The big one had the grilles. It also appears that the big one at one time had absolutely no detailing on that rear piece whatsoever.
     
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    True but both the 11 footer and the 3 footer were used interchangeably throughout the pilots and series
     
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    That was indeed the 3 footer with the flat saucer bottom I think. Shaw did an improved version that was shrunk atop Flint’s desk. The 11 footer had very bare aft caps—the vents were painted on?

    So the early AMT model had it right after all.
     
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    Interesting! He originally not only had the warp nacelles mounted on straight pylons, but he also had the rear nacelle bits pointing inward (with the spheres, as opposed to vents), hearkening back to Cochrane's Phoenix nacelle orientation. Very cool, thank you for posting that!
     
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    The spheres were removed because his supervisor pointed out they weren't there in 'The Cage'. Were they missing in any of the very early TOS Season 1 episodes? I don't recall.
     
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    Only in the flyby/orbit stock footage they inserted from the pilots throughout the series. I think the MU ISS Enterprise also had just grilles.
     
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    I would've liked spiked domes ;)
     
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    I would have liked a scene where the spikes retract when the ship slows down. And the sensor dish dilates to adjust for sublight scanning. And the spheres at the aft ends open up to allow for drive plasma to be vented through the series of holes back there.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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    Don't forget the registration rotation!
    In the Cage and WNMHGB configuration the "NCC" started close to the centre of the saucer
    https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x05hd/isthereintruthnobeautyhd0647.jpg
    When the model was revamped for the series, the "NCC" started from the outer rim of the saucer
    https://tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x05/theapple_554.jpg
     
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    I never noticed that.

    I wish he had maintained Evesdropping with Johnny...I miss Drex files..

    His Discovery front view is lovely
     
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    Empathizing with you re: the Drex Files and EavesDropping blogs.
     
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    That was one of the most amazing fan Trek sites for tech-heads like us... ever. :(

    And Doug was an awesome guy to boot...
     
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    I wish DrexFiles was still up just so I can read his Nx-Refit blogs again.

    I started following the blog shortly before he started doing the blogs her SOTL Calendar appearance.
     
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