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[Ray Hardgrit]

They both have too much hijinx and relationship drama.

 

[The Wormhole]

They both have too much hijinx and relationship drama.

So basically you think the shows are bad because they dare to have fun and depict their characters as actual human beings.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I consider Strange New Worlds to be far superior to the Orville in just about every aspect, but most importantly is the captain. Anson Mount's Christopher Pike over Seth MacFarlane's Ed Mercer a thousand times. Mercer was fine for the types of stories they told on Orville, but Pike to me is the epitome of what a Starfleet captain should be. He brings in the best of both Kirk and Picard into Pike.

 

[Jayson1]

Although I had huge issues with the blue guy episode, where coercion into sex with pheromones was treated as a joke, overall I've... liked the Orville slightly more than SNW.

I like it better as well but that is no knock on SNW. Like it lots as well.