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With due respect I do not believe you. I believe you see what you want to see in the fans and to predict that based upon personal viewpoints, values and desires. You don't see the fans, because I am a fan and don't reflect what I think, feel and believe. Which makes it all the more difficult to take this as a truth, when it is just your truth in subjective abstract, and being placed in a way that says "I speak for all fans."
With due respect, no you don't.
They actually tried to save S T D with TOS legacy. The quality of S T D did not determine the creation of SNW. Fans were impressed by Anson Mountain's performance and charisma. They wanted a prequel to TOS, which it will really be according to its essence and nature, and not according to the words of the producers, because S T D and TOS have more discontinuities than continuity.
A logical question. If the standalone S T D was so good why were they saving it with the Enterprise and Captain Pike, Spoct etc? That was all TOS legacy. Why season 2 of S T D is still the best rated among fans and critics?
What part of spinoff does not compute for you? SNW was spun off from DISCO. It's not a debatable subject. As far as the reasons they brought Spock, Pike, Una etc into Season 2, who knows? Trek likes to bring old stuff back,and in that case it worked very well. Good enough for a spinoff. Sometimes spinoffs are as successful, or moreso than the original show. Cheers/Frasier, Love American Style/Happy Days, Tracy Ullman Show/ The Simpsons. It happens. You don't appear to be able to comprehend all that, but take your time.
That was your first mistake. Nobody should listen to what fans think. Especially the people who are making the shows.
There are times I discard and stop caring about my OWN Trek opinions if that tells you anything about my "grasp" of other people's.
You know what. When I came to this forums fans in other places told me "Don't go to Trekbbs, there are a lot of Alex Kurtzman and Michael Burnham fans, not global Star Trek fans. And you know what? I didn't listen to those fans. And I'm not interested in that story. You may be Kurtzman's sinners but you are here as my Trek brothers from different world. Together we will win this even we don't agree. Me and most of Trek fans don't like 32nd century Starfleet, and you do, but it's okay. It is diversity. Diversity is thing that I respect, I'm trekkie.
SNW is that odd scenario where it is both a prequel to TOS and a sequel to DISCO.
I guess you never watched TOS S3 Let This Be Your Last BattlefieldOr practically ever other TNG episode where jean-Luc Picard gave a patronizing speech as to the 'right' course of action/ 'right' thing to do.
I'm too busy turning a bridge into a dimly-lit cave with shiny floors. I'll catch up with you later.
What's a Kurtzman sinner?
Yeah. CBS and Paramount have whole departments directed towards customer research. The shows that are on the air are the one's their market research tells them to put on the air. They don't spend a hundred million dollars a season on a wild guess. While that research doesn't tell them everything (if it did, every show and movie would be a hit), it gives them a general direction to work with.
In short, you likely know far less about "what fans want" than they do.
Now, I can admit that Discovery and Picard haven't worked out for me. We'll have to see about Starfleet Academy. Not what I wanted, but then I thought Picard would be a smashing success for me and Lower Decks trash. I feel the exact opposite about both now.
Having moderated the Discovery forum since its inception, I can safely attest that the opposing camps "TrekBBS is a load of Kurtzman groupies who don't allow negative opinions" and "TrekBBS is just full of negativity and complaining and fans of new Trek get shouted down" are roughly equal in size and assuredness that they are correct.
No, you're offering your personal opinion.
And only yours.
If I were to play this game I could more credibly defend a claim to know what trek ought to be and what trek fans want than you can. And it would still be some preposterous self-aggrandizing nonsense on my part.
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What does that mean? I like TOS, parts of TNG, DS9, and Discovery, as well as SNW, some LD, and Prodigy.
Oh, and TAS.
Not global enough?
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