Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion
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You're generalizing. There are stories that deserve to be told, and that people need to hear. Film is just another medium for that. This applies first and foremost to films about actual events, but also, James Cameron needed to see Star Wars to finally get off his ass and pursue a career in film. So in the end it all really comes down to your definition of "need".
Just saw the movie. Haven't read all the comments yet.
I thought it was a little too frenetic and lacked a clear story but as the last installment, I was eager to see where it was going and how it would wrap everything up. In the end, I can't say it was a great installment but I did like the last 15 seconds or so.
C+
- Good use of Carrie Fisher. It wasn't obvious that they had to use stock footage.
- The Rey revelation was good.
- Ian McDiarmid seriously delivered as the Emperor and an over-the-top B movie villain. An A+ there for sure.
- I liked seeing old faces (literally and figuratively).
- That kiss got some gasps from the audience.
I thought it was a little too frenetic and lacked a clear story but as the last installment, I was eager to see where it was going and how it would wrap everything up. In the end, I can't say it was a great installment but I did like the last 15 seconds or so.
C+
- Good use of Carrie Fisher. It wasn't obvious that they had to use stock footage.
- The Rey revelation was good.
- Ian McDiarmid seriously delivered as the Emperor and an over-the-top B movie villain. An A+ there for sure.
- I liked seeing old faces (literally and figuratively).
- That kiss got some gasps from the audience.
Pretty much my thoughts. Overall good, a solid B+, at least as good as ROTJ but like ROTJ there’s some stupid bullshit you need to make peace with.
Stupid bullshit indeed. Just like with ROTJ, there’s too much story. While I don’t think some aspects would have necessarily worked without Palpatine, I really felt he dragged down the story. The movie almost could have been two films. That might have worked better.
But I really liked the Resistance storyline. The trio working together was a lot of fun. The whole concept of hope and that family is deeper than blood really worked for me personally.
I read somewhere that in the expanded universe, he had concubines or something.
I was stuck in traffic and got in just in time. ...for 20 minutes of trailers.
So has the current EU ruled out Anakin being created by Palps? Cause that would make Rey and Ben cousins...
...and that kiss...well, perfect Star Wars actually.
...and that kiss...well, perfect Star Wars actually.
Actually, it's been confirmed. The Sheevster manipulated the midi-chrolorians in Shmi's 2omb to conceive Anakin.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/dorksideoftheforce.com/2018/12/20/star-wars-comic-anakin-father/amp/
I forgot that Keri Russell was in this. I was wondering what Poe's masked ex looked like.
I've said this before, but it bears repeating: members of the Lucasfilm Story Group have gone on record stating that that scene was not meant to be taken literally.
Considering that I'm usually super negative.. I'll just tell you the part that really worked for me. That's Lando and Poe. The lesson Lando was trying to impart on Poe. Telling him that, though they had very little, they won because they stuck together. Giving Poe that lesson spoke to me. It is the best use of a legacy character at least in my opinion, and Lando himself seems to be exactly the way he was before and I loved that. People might "complain" that he was the same 30 years later, but to me it was reassuring in how familiar it was. And again, it was a very simple, but very good lesson to impart on Poe.
The rise of the First Order has already been explained via the Aftermath Trilogy and the one-off novel Bloodline.
And I disagree that Palpatine's survival needs to be explained.
And I disagree that Palpatine's survival needs to be explained.
B+ from me. Some thoughts, stream of consciousness, having seen it a few hour ago (non-IMAX, non-3D):
The kiss. People in my theater were laughing (I'm not sure that was supposed to be the response) or gasping in shock at it. It didn't serve any purpose whatsoever.
The Poe/Finn shippers probably walked away disappointed. But as least we saw one LGBTQ+.
Handwaving Palpatine's resurrection. One brief line of evidently no consequence. But at least the fans who remember or read the Dark Horse comics can be somewhat satisfied. So was Snoke some badly deformed clone of Palpatine?
Chewie's death and 3PO's memory erasure were big moments that were undone in the end. Both felt like a bit of a cheat.
The rebels need to make sure that Palpatine is really dead this time.
More planet-killing weapons.
All the non-/not totally anthropomorphic aliens made me, as a Star Trek fan, a little disappointed that we don't see that more often in the Trek franchise.
This thing should have been split into two films or at least more tightly edited, especially in the second half.
When or where did Palpatine ever have children (at least ones not created via midichlorian manipulation)?
The kiss. People in my theater were laughing (I'm not sure that was supposed to be the response) or gasping in shock at it. It didn't serve any purpose whatsoever.
The Poe/Finn shippers probably walked away disappointed. But as least we saw one LGBTQ+.
Handwaving Palpatine's resurrection. One brief line of evidently no consequence. But at least the fans who remember or read the Dark Horse comics can be somewhat satisfied. So was Snoke some badly deformed clone of Palpatine?
Chewie's death and 3PO's memory erasure were big moments that were undone in the end. Both felt like a bit of a cheat.
The rebels need to make sure that Palpatine is really dead this time.
More planet-killing weapons.
All the non-/not totally anthropomorphic aliens made me, as a Star Trek fan, a little disappointed that we don't see that more often in the Trek franchise.
This thing should have been split into two films or at least more tightly edited, especially in the second half.
When or where did Palpatine ever have children (at least ones not created via midichlorian manipulation)?
The acolytes dug out Palpatine's body from the Death Star and stuck it at the end of a big crane with some tubes connected to keep vital organs alive. Rest is "Force". No further explanation needed.
