Star Wars: The Force Awakens Discussion (HERE THERE BE SPOILERS)
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Tell that the makers of sci-fi and fantasy films. Actual science kind of goes right down the toilet in most of them. Still, hitting a Core planet would be infinitely more ridiculous from that distance and if they were going to destroy an inhabited solar system in the New Republic at least they invented a new one instead of targeting Coruscant.
I think either Abrams or Kennedy realized the fanbase would go insane, either because it was Coruscant or because it would have been so incredibly derivative of ST09.
Or Chewie.
If Chewie had been killed in the new movie, audiences would have rioted like an English football match just ran out of beer and balls.
If Chewie had been killed in the new movie, audiences would have rioted like an English football match just ran out of beer and balls.
But it did give us a lot of warm and funny dialogue between Chewie and Han and with Chewie's small-talking nurse back at the Resistance base. That scene reminded me of the kind of everyday, realistic-sounding dialogue that was missing from so much of the Prequel Trilogy.
It's certainly the first legitimately funny SW movie since way back in 1983 or so. ( Not counting stuff like Yoda taking down the royal guards in ROTS - I'm thinking of dialogue. ) Much of the criticism leveled at Lucas over the prequels is massively overblown, but his attempts at "comedy" in those films were pitiful. It's as if the man had no actual sense of humor by that point. It even makes you wonder if the funny parts of the OT were written by others.
Yeah, the humor worked absolutely perfectly in this movie. The dialogue felt natural. The characters were all likable & fun. I have no complaints there.
Some of the best lines were improvised, and Lucas actually went and """"""fixed"""""" them for the special editions.
TFA has now finished its domestic boxoffice sprint, and has begun to settle down (end of holidays, I suppose).
It brought in impressive 90 million in its third weekend, but as of yesterday, it's in a single digit territory (which was expected). It made an estimated 8 million on Monday (18th day of release), which is almost an exact same figure as Avatar's on its 18th day, and it will now be very interesting to follow how well it holds in comparison.
Avatar had mindblowing "legs", and by its 18th day made $360 mil., which was less than half of its total gross (750 mil., not counting the re-releases, which brought in additional 10 mil.). TFA is already at 750 mil. at this point, and still has a shot at breaking 1 billion domestically. It's a bit of a stretch, but not impossible.
Either way, it will certainly set a domestic record that isn't likely to be challenged any time soon.
It brought in impressive 90 million in its third weekend, but as of yesterday, it's in a single digit territory (which was expected). It made an estimated 8 million on Monday (18th day of release), which is almost an exact same figure as Avatar's on its 18th day, and it will now be very interesting to follow how well it holds in comparison.
Avatar had mindblowing "legs", and by its 18th day made $360 mil., which was less than half of its total gross (750 mil., not counting the re-releases, which brought in additional 10 mil.). TFA is already at 750 mil. at this point, and still has a shot at breaking 1 billion domestically. It's a bit of a stretch, but not impossible.
Either way, it will certainly set a domestic record that isn't likely to be challenged any time soon.
We aren't talking about a gene-altering ray gun or making up elements or the correct use of fission vs fusion in the technobabble. This is basic observable universe shit. We can't see planets in other star systems in the sky. We can barely see the planets in our own system. If he wanted to show the planets blowing up (which based on the scale was more like a planet and some moons), give us a PoV character there to see it.
Instantly blowing up a planet from 100 light years away is no more likely than blowing up one 1000 light years away. They've already dug into the hyperspace well to explain it.
Hyperlasers, sub-hyperspace, and hyperspace rips of some kind that basically allowed more or less everyone in the Galaxy to see those beams blow up those five planets in more or less real time.
Sometimes a director/script/effects will force you to come up with technobabble just to make something impossible at least sound like it could happen, within the technology presented. I can imagine the hard core Star Wars groups that spend time coming up with just how much power a turbolaser has to be able to vaporize asteroids are going to be pulling out their hair over this one, as it is explained....poorly, with less power than their old numbers would have you believe a Star Destroyer can put out in a second.
Sometimes a director/script/effects will force you to come up with technobabble just to make something impossible at least sound like it could happen, within the technology presented. I can imagine the hard core Star Wars groups that spend time coming up with just how much power a turbolaser has to be able to vaporize asteroids are going to be pulling out their hair over this one, as it is explained....poorly, with less power than their old numbers would have you believe a Star Destroyer can put out in a second.
"trust me" became "I can see much better" too, I swear Lucas is OCD.
The actors had more freedom to act in the OT, in the PT Lucas would talk the actors though every little gesture. It was part of his micro-managing problem.
It's Star Wars. Sure, it looked silly and nonsensical but I don't go to Star Wars movies to validate my scientific view of the universe. The Veridian sun in Generations shouldn't have gone dark the very instant Dr. Soran's trilithium probe detonated but it did.
Frankly, I wouldn't even have used another moon-sized superweapon in this film and gone for something more along the lines of a bacteriological warfare plot against the New Republic to wipe out entire planetary populations, but I doubt that would have gone over too well with Lucasfilm in an era of real-life terror plots and doomsday scenarios. Creepier. More realistic and it wouldn't have involved violations of basic scientific rules to execute such a plot, but probably a non-starter in this day and age.
Frankly, I wouldn't even have used another moon-sized superweapon in this film and gone for something more along the lines of a bacteriological warfare plot against the New Republic to wipe out entire planetary populations, but I doubt that would have gone over too well with Lucasfilm in an era of real-life terror plots and doomsday scenarios. Creepier. More realistic and it wouldn't have involved violations of basic scientific rules to execute such a plot, but probably a non-starter in this day and age.
I went to see TFA on the 17th and then again on the 20th. I really liked it, I loved the way JJ Abrams went with sets and props like the original films rather than an overdose of CGI as with the prequels.
Okay it was practically a remake of ANH but I didn't care. I loved seeing the Millennium Falcon and the chemistry between Han/Chewie was great. New X-wings and Tie fighters battling it out was amazing!
My only gripe with the film was the CGI characters Maz and Snoke. Why do it? You go to all the trouble to make the film as close in style to the original then you chuck in a couple of CGI characters. Out of the two Maz did look better but Snoke looked like something from the now 15 year old Lord of The Rings.
Okay it was practically a remake of ANH but I didn't care. I loved seeing the Millennium Falcon and the chemistry between Han/Chewie was great. New X-wings and Tie fighters battling it out was amazing!
My only gripe with the film was the CGI characters Maz and Snoke. Why do it? You go to all the trouble to make the film as close in style to the original then you chuck in a couple of CGI characters. Out of the two Maz did look better but Snoke looked like something from the now 15 year old Lord of The Rings.
They never showed Snoke in person; they only showed his hologram. It makes more sense for it to look slightly unreal.
On the subject of sets and props, I kind of wish they had taken the art design in a slightly different direction. I thought everything looked almost the same after three decades. I like some of the designs in the "Art of TFA" book. I wish some of that had made it to the screen.
Kor
On the subject of sets and props, I kind of wish they had taken the art design in a slightly different direction. I thought everything looked almost the same after three decades. I like some of the designs in the "Art of TFA" book. I wish some of that had made it to the screen.
Kor
The overall "feel" was the same but literally everything was at least a little different. We're talking about a civilization that has been producing space ships for thousands of years and spreads from one end of the galaxy to the other. It makes sense to me that the overall aesthetic should be slow to change.
