^ Yes but they've still not totally ignored it. I keep forgetting he got his scar in the comic.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars S4
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But was portrayed as significantly more formidable than in ROTS or TCW.
I believe that in the continuity of the microseries, Anakin gets his scar offscreen during the timeline of Chapter 22, sometime after rescuing three Jedi from bubble enclosures and before Padmé sees it for the first time.
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New trailer with new scenes, too bad it starts like most S4 trailers.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=81083
Premier about a month from now.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=81083
Premier about a month from now.
Yeah. I love they way they interweave the action with character development - just the right balance to keep things from getting plodding and preachy on one hand, or overly mindless on the other.
I hope Kurtzman and Orci (who want to do a Star Trek animated series) are taking notes. In Star Trek's case, they could skew a bit further towards character rather than action.
Awesome trailer.
It's long overdue the Anakin/slavery issue was addressed. I always thought Anakin should have been conflicted about the clones since they are basically slaves of the Republic.
It's long overdue the Anakin/slavery issue was addressed. I always thought Anakin should have been conflicted about the clones since they are basically slaves of the Republic.
Really looking forward to season four.
Ditto. Not sure if they dare address that issue. I mean, it does make the Jedi look morally reprehensible in a way that goes way beyond simple cluelessness or carelessness. If the "normal" type of morality is being applied here (not some kind of only-in-Star-Wars morality where clones are no more considered equal to people than droids are) it really calls into question why anyone should support the Jedi vs their opponents.
Of course that could go a long ways towards giving Anakin a good reason to switch sides without needing to be the least bit clueless or irrational, but it's kind of making it too easy, to do that by exposing the Jedi as terrible hypocrites.
This would be better: let the Jedi be the ones to admit that the whole clone thing was always a bad idea, and take steps to wean the Republic off clonetropper manufacture, but then discover to their horror that they wouldn't get enough regular recruits to make up the difference. Then it's not the Jedi, but the Republic, that is being horrible - the people of the Republic are willing to safeguard their freedom through the slavery of others - and if Anakin wants to turn on that kind of society, more power to him!
Oh, and Slaves of the Republic would have been so much better of a name than Attack of the Clones!
One of the odd things about the Clone War is the lack of planetary militaries involvement. We've seen some officers like Yularen, Tarkin, and Paelleon (in the comics), but what about the rank and file soldiers? We've seen far too little of that. At least one Jedi General, Kota from the Force Unleashed, didn't trust clones and used regular soldiers. It would be nice to have Kota on the show or another Jedi who didn't use clones not because of trust issues (if I recall correctly), but because of the moral implications of it. I mean, after the war is over what are you going to do with a million plus guys who were trained only for combat? Are you just going to let them loose on the galaxy?
Do the worlds of the Republic not have their own militaries? I know Naboo at least has one, but what about the others? Clone Wars established that the Republic pays the energy costs for its members, but is it supposed to shoulder most of the military responsibilities as well?
As for the slavery storyline, this is something that should've happened a long time ago. I wish we could have a flashback of a younger pre-AOTC Anakin being sullen or pestering Obi Wan or others about going back and doing something about Tatoonine, of freeing the slaves there and being coldly reminded that he should practice lack of attachment. I never quite bought that he would let his mother's condition go. I mean, they did mention that he had been dreaming about her in AOTC, but I'm surprised that he wouldn't be doing more than that. Pressing the Jedi or his buddy Palpatine to be more active on the issue. Stealing a ship and going to do the job himself.
In any event, I'm looking forward to see what happens with how the adult, post-AOTC Anakin handles the issue, and how that will stack up to how slavery is being addressed in the current Fate of the Jedi novel series. Also, slavery plays a backdrop in the Dark Times comic book series, and I always like how they write Vader's reaction to it. A kind of regretful, sad, inevitability. A reminder of who he was and all that he lost, of the monster that he has become. A slave who has become the enslaver.
Do the worlds of the Republic not have their own militaries? I know Naboo at least has one, but what about the others? Clone Wars established that the Republic pays the energy costs for its members, but is it supposed to shoulder most of the military responsibilities as well?
As for the slavery storyline, this is something that should've happened a long time ago. I wish we could have a flashback of a younger pre-AOTC Anakin being sullen or pestering Obi Wan or others about going back and doing something about Tatoonine, of freeing the slaves there and being coldly reminded that he should practice lack of attachment. I never quite bought that he would let his mother's condition go. I mean, they did mention that he had been dreaming about her in AOTC, but I'm surprised that he wouldn't be doing more than that. Pressing the Jedi or his buddy Palpatine to be more active on the issue. Stealing a ship and going to do the job himself.
In any event, I'm looking forward to see what happens with how the adult, post-AOTC Anakin handles the issue, and how that will stack up to how slavery is being addressed in the current Fate of the Jedi novel series. Also, slavery plays a backdrop in the Dark Times comic book series, and I always like how they write Vader's reaction to it. A kind of regretful, sad, inevitability. A reminder of who he was and all that he lost, of the monster that he has become. A slave who has become the enslaver.
I thought he got his scar from Ventress in the Republic comic book? I'm sure that has been retconned out though. If I recall correctly, he already had the ROTS long hair when he got his scar in that comic. It seems like for the cartoon the date of his scarring has been moved up, more toward the beginning of the war than its end.
saw the trailer, meh. Just not been in a star wars mood as of late, and this did nothing to get me excited.
Probably has to with the fact i been watching a LOT of trek thanks to netflix lately. And the wars just isnt appealing to me. But I love the characters in trek so much more than wars.
Probably has to with the fact i been watching a LOT of trek thanks to netflix lately. And the wars just isnt appealing to me. But I love the characters in trek so much more than wars.
He didn't? When did they cover that in the OT, I don't remember slaves being an issue at all.
It may be that, with the clones to serve as Navy/Marines in space, each planet of the Republic keeps its military (Army) at home for defense. Or maybe the planet-based militaries we have seen defending their worlds wouldn't be willing to defend other worlds of the Republic. I'd like this question to be more definitely addressed.
Yes, that would have gone a long ways towards establishing Anakin as a sympathetic character instead of a selfish, sullen douchebag who didn't care about anyone but himself (and whose relationship with Padme was just infantile displacement of his mommy-fetish and therefore eeeewwwghhh...)
TCW has rendered all that moot, since we've seen plenty of Anakin caring about Artoo, Ahsoka and clonetroopers, which is interesting since it adds up to caring about the "downtrodden" - droids, children, clones. And his relationship with Padme seems much more adult and genuine, which is a real relief.
Particularly the villains. That's where Star Trek has it all over Star Wars. I just can't get into a bwahaha type like Dooku, once I've seen terrific villains like Dukat and Weyoun. But the more Anakin morphs into villainy, the more he can compensate, because TCW is developing him to be a great villain - the best (and most difficult) kind, a hero who becomes a villain without ever needing to be crazy or stupid to get him from Point A to Point B.
It's also possible that the average planet's military isn't well equipped enough to face a galactic-class army on their own.
I mean, I don't think the cops in my town have any antitank missiles or Stingers in their armory.
I mean, I don't think the cops in my town have any antitank missiles or Stingers in their armory.
The Republic provides the ships and firepower for the clonetroopers, so they could provide ships and firepower for recruits from Republic worlds. The question is, could they put the brakes on clonetrooper production and prosecute the war completely with recruits from Republic worlds?
If not, that's a big red flag that the Republic may not be worth saving. A society that won't defend itself is too corrupt to bother saving. If that's the reason Anakin kicked the Jedi to the curb, then good for him.
If not, that's a big red flag that the Republic may not be worth saving. A society that won't defend itself is too corrupt to bother saving. If that's the reason Anakin kicked the Jedi to the curb, then good for him.
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