Star Wars:The Clone Wars S3......so far

[Dac]

It just seems the Jedi are fighting and refusing to ask any questions.

I don't know about that. I watched Episode III again earlier and the council's motives throughout were all about ending the war and forcing Palpatine to return his emergency powers to the senate. All the time the Jedi are fighting to end the war, but early on there was no clear picture as to who they were fighting. It was just droids attacking a planet so the republic fights back. I can't remember a republic offensive portrayed in the clone wars that was purely done to strike fear into the sepratists - all the attacks and battles the Jedi/Republic started were to achieve a specific goal, whether it was destroying Malevolence or stopping the droid factories on a fallen Geonosis.

It hasn't been until this season that the Jedi and Republic have started questioning the motives for the war, and this is most clearly displayed in Ahsoka's meeting with the teenage seppy she met while escorting Padme into separatist space. It gave her doubts about why they are fighting, and I think when the rest of the Jedi find themselves face to face with the people of the separatists, not just the droids they'll start to question it too.

 

[davejames]

I have to admit, this last ep was surprisingly cool. Between the lightsaber action and the space battle, there was so much badass stuff going on I had to constantly rewind a bit to see it again. And I got a huge kick out of watching Artoo in action as well (he should tag along on EVERY mission).

 

[Cmndr J Crichton]

This has been one fantastic sesosn! Political Intrigue, Jedi action, Clone comradere! Incredible animation. Darkness so bleak, you can hardly call this a kids show anymore!

 

[DarKush]

I only saw the first and third episodes of this latest arc and it didn't do anything for me. Having Piell and Tarkin in it was cool, but I was disappointed that they killed off Piell. For one, it contradicts his previous EU fate and two, it was done so quickly and in a lackluster manner. There was no need to kill off Piell or if they needed a random Jedi death, they could've picked someone else. It's almost like they just thumbed their noses at Piell's original fate just to do it. Perhaps they didn't know about it, but somehow I doubt that. These guys seem well versed in the EU, using various alien species, etc., and all it would take is a quick trip to wookieepedia to find out what happened to Piell originally. I have to wonder if maybe they just didn't care for his original fate and wanted to do something else with him. Well, I wish they had made it more spectacular or vicious.

I did like those anooba hunting dogs however, they reminded me of the Yuuzhan Vong Jedi hunting creatures. Man, I would love to see the TCW folks take on the NJO/Vong War.

 

[Mach5]

Darkness so bleak, you can hardly call this a kids show anymore!

I must say I was stunned to see that warden guy shoot a clone trooper in the head like that.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Darkness so bleak, you can hardly call this a kids show anymore!

I must say I was stunned to see that warden guy shoot a clone trooper in the head like that.

Agreed. I'm hoping George is working up the courage to show Han shooting first again.

 

[timothy]

I loved the citidel trilogy even though they killed off master peel . this screws up the book continuety yet agin . because in the books master peel does'nt die till after the war is over in coursant knights. and I can'nt wait till the hour season finale .

How many more sesason's does this series have . I mean they introduced tarkin and the tri droid fighters which were seen in the assualt of coursant . I am already going threw star wars withdrawal .

Plus we gotta new old republic novel coming next week deceived dealing the new mmo comiing out next year .

 

[Mach5]

The rise of Tarkin has to be one of the main themes in season 4! I DEMAND IT!

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I watched Episode III again earlier and the council's motives throughout were all about ending the war and forcing Palpatine to return his emergency powers to the senate. All the time the Jedi are fighting to end the war, but early on there was no clear picture as to who they were fighting. It was just droids attacking a planet so the republic fights back. I can't remember a republic offensive portrayed in the clone wars that was purely done to strike fear into the sepratists - all the attacks and battles the Jedi/Republic started were to achieve a specific goal, whether it was destroying Malevolence or stopping the droid factories on a fallen Geonosis.

Honestly I lost track of who was doing what to whom because it was too scattershot and boring for me to care. There's no better way to get me to shut down my ears than by saying "taxation of trade routes," unless it's "vote of no confidence." And how the political story mapped to the periodic outbursts of lightsaber wielding violence, who the hell knows? TCW is doing a much better job dramatizing the ins and outs of the politics, so that I actually feel motivated to follow what's going on.

I think when the rest of the Jedi find themselves face to face with the people of the separatists, not just the droids they'll start to question it too.

The Separatists were Senators at one point, so some of the Jedi should have known them personally. Nobody thought to wonder, "Gee Joe was such a nice guy, funny how he hates the Republic now. Maybe it was something he ate?"

The Jedi seem to be weirdly disconnected and off in their own little world, which would make sense if you assume they're a reclusive monastic order, but not at all if they're supposed to be these hot-shot diplomats who are charged with keeping the Republic from imploding. With a job like that, they should have networks of personal connections that would make Mark Zukerberg look like a hermit.

How many more sesason's does this series have .

Two, which seems just about right with the amount of wrap-up they have to do with all the themes they've introduced.

 

[Listener4]

While I've never been totally satisfied with this show, it is consistently more interesting than the prequels. Looking forward to the remaining seasons.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Darkness so bleak, you can hardly call this a kids show anymore!

I must say I was stunned to see that warden guy shoot a clone trooper in the head like that.

Agreed. I'm hoping George is working up the courage to show Han shooting first again.

As far as I care, Han didn't shoot first. No, he shot, and only he shot. Greedo simply did not shoot.

 

[Mr Nighttime]

I must say I was stunned to see that warden guy shoot a clone trooper in the head like that.

Agreed. I'm hoping George is working up the courage to show Han shooting first again.

As far as I care, Han didn't shoot first. No, he shot, and only he shot. Greedo simply did not shoot.

100% Truth!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Agreed. I'm hoping George is working up the courage to show Han shooting first again.

As far as I care, Han didn't shoot first. No, he shot, and only he shot. Greedo simply did not shoot.

100% Truth!

Right! What I meant!

 

[Christopher]

There was no need to kill off Piell or if they needed a random Jedi death, they could've picked someone else. It's almost like they just thumbed their noses at Piell's original fate just to do it. Perhaps they didn't know about it, but somehow I doubt that. These guys seem well versed in the EU, using various alien species, etc., and all it would take is a quick trip to wookieepedia to find out what happened to Piell originally. I have to wonder if maybe they just didn't care for his original fate and wanted to do something else with him.

Storytellers have an obligation to do what is best for the story they're telling at the moment. Past continuity, particularly non-canonical continuity, is a resource to draw on, but not a dogma that must be followed even at the cost of the story. If telling the best possible story means disregarding what an earlier story did, then that's what you do. It's not the result of ignorance or deliberate hostility toward the original work; it's a creative choice for the good of the story, one that the creators of the story have the right to make.

 

[Cmndr J Crichton]

The series should end with Anakin and Obi-Wan getting the orders to rescue the Chancellor. The last season could be Dooku and Grievous 'planning' Palpatine's kidnap. The series ends with Anakin and Obi-Wan jetting back to Coruscant after the invasion.

 

[Mach5]

The series should end with Anakin and Obi-Wan getting the orders to rescue the Chancellor. The last season could be Dooku and Grievous 'planning' Palpatine's kidnap. The series ends with Anakin and Obi-Wan jetting back to Coruscant after the invasion.

The finale of Gendy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars was pretty awesome, and It would be cool if this show expanded on that.

Wouldn't it be neat if the final scene showed Anakin and Obi Wan get into their starfighters, Kenobi drops some Horatio Caine style punchline while closing the hatch, and the last thing we see before the final fade-out is two fighters exiting the Republic cruiser and speed away towards Dooku's ship.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

There was no need to kill off Piell or if they needed a random Jedi death, they could've picked someone else. It's almost like they just thumbed their noses at Piell's original fate just to do it. Perhaps they didn't know about it, but somehow I doubt that. These guys seem well versed in the EU, using various alien species, etc., and all it would take is a quick trip to wookieepedia to find out what happened to Piell originally. I have to wonder if maybe they just didn't care for his original fate and wanted to do something else with him.

Storytellers have an obligation to do what is best for the story they're telling at the moment. Past continuity, particularly non-canonical continuity, is a resource to draw on, but not a dogma that must be followed even at the cost of the story. If telling the best possible story means disregarding what an earlier story did, then that's what you do. It's not the result of ignorance or deliberate hostility toward the original work; it's a creative choice for the good of the story, one that the creators of the story have the right to make.

Especially since TCW hasn't shown much respect for the canon of the PT, so why expect respect for the canon of the EU?

The series should end with Anakin and Obi-Wan getting the orders to rescue the Chancellor. The last season could be Dooku and Grievous 'planning' Palpatine's kidnap. The series ends with Anakin and Obi-Wan jetting back to Coruscant after the invasion.

The problem is, the story so far simply doesn't synch up with ROTS - TCW has introduced big discontinuities by having characters know more than they "should," and writing Anakin in a completely different way. They shouldn't bother to synch it up with ROTS now that they've scuttled it anyway.

The only way to have TCW and ROTS match up now is if the final episode features all the characters being given amnesia. Plus Anakin needs a personality reset.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Wouldn't it be neat if the final scene showed Anakin and Obi Wan get into their starfighters, Kenobi drops some Horatio Caine style punchline while closing the hatch, and the last thing we see before the final fade-out is two fighters exiting the Republic cruiser and speed away towards Dooku's ship.

This would be awesome.

In case you all haven't caught on yet, I'm a big original release OT fan. But, for the record, I do think that the opening space battle of Episode III is frakking awesome. Right up until they board the Invisible Hand. (And, equally unfortunately, this battle is about the best damn thing in the whole PT. Anyone here also familiar with Ralph McQuarrie's preproduction artwork should appreciate the bone that GL threw us OT fans in that space battle.)

Anyway, I agree, that would be a great way to end TCW.

By the way, does anyone understand how the traditionally animated Clone Wars series fits into Star Wars canon with computer animated Clone Wars?

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Anyone here also familiar with Ralph McQuarrie's preproduction artwork should appreciate the bone that GL threw us OT fans in that space battle.

please specfy

 

[DarthPipes]

I wouldn't mind seeing a Post-ROTS story as the final Clone Wars episode, especially if Ahsoka and Rex survive. I'd personally like to see Rex remain loyal to the Republic while Cody (who we know fall in line with the Empire) tracks him down. Anakin's clone Rex is loyal to the Republic while Cody is loyal to the Empire. We get a confrontation between those two. That's what I'd like to see.

About Even Piell...I read the book he dies in. Jedi Twilight Coruscant Knights I. Good book but not exactly memorable. Piell's death was also one of the most unmemorable death imaginable in the opening chapter. It literally could have been any Jedi. It is absolutely not worth getting upset over.