Star Wars:The Clone Wars S3......so far
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I have no problem with calling that self-serving bullshit, but it's not what the Jedi believe.
I don't recall the Jedi ever stating that anyone could be "perfectly good", but the Jedi do show by example that one can live as a Force user while eschewing the dark side.
Yes. That one was definitively settled over 5 years ago ( though it was highly obvious ever since the release of the TPM trailer ).
Is it literally out of balance? Is the dark side literally ascendant?
Bringing balance to the Force.
From all the squabbling over canon and hurt feelings when Lucas violates canon, I definitely think that less is more when it comes to Star Wars and the less I expose myself to ideas from novels that are likely to be overwritten, the happier I will be. 
TCW is going to tackle the Force soon. I'll just go into it without (many) preconceived notions and see if I like what they have to say about it.
TCW is going to tackle the Force soon. I'll just go into it without (many) preconceived notions and see if I like what they have to say about it.
I believe that Gui-Jon's upcoming appearance has to do with the Prophecy of the Chosen one that I mentioned a few pages back that would be a focus in this season. Things are starting to escalate in the conflict between Sith and Jedi during this war that eventually will lead to ROTS. The end of this season and next season is going to be very interesting indeed. I've been enjoying this Nightsisters "trilogy".
One of these days I'd like to see the Red Royal Guard be dealt with in more detail in The Clone Wars. Sure, we've had some background on the Guards in the EU before (In the Crimson Empire comics and some of Zahn's stuff), but we've never really seen them in action (apart from Yoda casually throwing them aside in ROTS). Sure, we get plenty on the blue guards who have similar armor, but I'd like to explore some of the mystique around these guys.
Too late. "The Force has no sides" is exactly that - revision from a novel that is likely to be overwritten ( and in fact already has been ).
What novel does this idea come from specifically? Are there any other SW books that present different views on the nature of the Force?
^ As I mentioned Jacen Solo's struggles with the Force were well documented in the Vong invasion novels, this led him down the path of the Dark Side though.
Traitor.
Patterns of Force ( yes, they ripped off the title from a TOS episode, apparently ) insists that the debate is an in-universe one rather than strictly out-of-universe. This essentially confuses the real world with the fictional setting. Rogue Planet introduces the Potentium but takes care to explain that it is a discredited viewpoint.
Yes, yes. EU novels, which are fair game to be superceded by the series, are indeed a definitive source of SW lore.
Savage Oppress Part Three: excellent episode! Great stuff! I was surprised that Savage broke away from Dooku already; if he's not part of the Separatist movement what part does he play in the series at this point?
Loved the saber fights in this one. Loved how casually Savage snapped the nice king's neck.
Was that actually supposed to be Darth Maul alive and well, or just another Zabrak who looks like him?
Loved the saber fights in this one. Loved how casually Savage snapped the nice king's neck.
Was that actually supposed to be Darth Maul alive and well, or just another Zabrak who looks like him?
The end of the Nightsisters trilogy was decent, it was serviceable, but it felt a bit rushed. I don't get how Obi Wan knew Darth Maul's name, why the Zabraks so quickly ratted out the sisters they serve, why Mother Talzin told Obi Wan and Anakin where Savage was, or how the two Jedi got there so quickly. What's the rush in speeding up the kill Dooku plan? So what the Jedi knew where Savage came from. It wasn't like they had a good record of capturing (and keeping) any of the high ranking leaders or operatives of the Confederacy. Asajj, Grevious, even Cad Bane pretty much were running around willy nilly. Overall, it felt like they were just rushing to wrap up the story.
I did enjoy the Dooku-Asajj-Savage fight. That was really cool, though I wish that Asajj had fared a little better against Dooku. I wasn't expecting Savage to survive. I thought he was going to get killed during the battle, or with the droids (really glad he wasn't killed by droids though), or betrayed by Mother Talzin. I'm glad he's alive only in that they can bring him back bigger and badder than ever. He definitely needs more training.
Thrown by the Darth Maul image in the unknown regions. Is it a holocron? Can't imagine Maul having the experience to build one. Could it be another Zabrak that looks like Maul? more feasible, but why? That's sort of the point with Savage. As much as I felt Maul was seriously underused, I don't want him to be resurrected. It's been done before and I would rather not see it on TCW. Here perhaps it would've been cool to throw another bone to the EU novels and give us a glimpse of the Lost Tribe of Sith. Or maybe Abeloth or some other dark side group.
I did enjoy the Dooku-Asajj-Savage fight. That was really cool, though I wish that Asajj had fared a little better against Dooku. I wasn't expecting Savage to survive. I thought he was going to get killed during the battle, or with the droids (really glad he wasn't killed by droids though), or betrayed by Mother Talzin. I'm glad he's alive only in that they can bring him back bigger and badder than ever. He definitely needs more training.
Thrown by the Darth Maul image in the unknown regions. Is it a holocron? Can't imagine Maul having the experience to build one. Could it be another Zabrak that looks like Maul? more feasible, but why? That's sort of the point with Savage. As much as I felt Maul was seriously underused, I don't want him to be resurrected. It's been done before and I would rather not see it on TCW. Here perhaps it would've been cool to throw another bone to the EU novels and give us a glimpse of the Lost Tribe of Sith. Or maybe Abeloth or some other dark side group.
Good, but rushed. Would've liked to see more Sith Training, for one. Very happy Ventress didn't get reset buttoned and looking forwards to seeing where they go with her. Goes almost without saying the duels were spectacular. I think this was the first time we've seen a Dark Siders power level be completely unstable, which they really should be given they rely on emotions.
Talzin clearly wants to use Savage and Maul for something and wasn't above screwing over Ventress to get it. What, though?
Bringing Maul back could either be genius or a complete trainwreck, depending on how they do it. We'll have to see.
Talzin clearly wants to use Savage and Maul for something and wasn't above screwing over Ventress to get it. What, though?
Bringing Maul back could either be genius or a complete trainwreck, depending on how they do it. We'll have to see.
I think the reason Talzin sold out Savage to the Jedi was so that they could play a role in screwing things up for Savage so that he'd have to retreat back to Dathomir and throw himself on the Nightsisters' mercy. It was a step in the convoluted plan to get him where Talzin wanted him to be.
"What?"
I thought it was a great episode. It had a lot of stuff to like...
-Savage's training. Agreed on the ESB parrelel. It's a twisted version of that training.
-Terrific Anakin/Obi-Wan interaction.
-An absolutely fantastic duel between Dooku, Ventress, and Savage. Pretty epic. I don't think Savage is stronger than everyone else but he's an unstable element and the dark side can lash out powerfully that way.
-Anyone else find Savage dragging the dead body of the Toydarian king to Dooku to be funny? Interesting bit of dark humor with Dooku's looney tunes type anger.
-Darth Maul lives? I really don't know what to think about tha. Maul should be dead, that's what made Obi-Wan a Jedi. Obi-Wan would have to kill him again. It could be a clone but that would be bringing up one of the worst storylines in the EU. I'm going to trust that GL knows what he's doing here.
The SW Infinities comic (released before ROTS) did a fun (non-canon even in the EU) where Obi-Wan battled a literal half-man, half-machine Maul on Tatooine. The artist did a good job of making Obi-Wan look like a mix between McGreggor and Guinness.
The main weakness of this episode and story arc is that it was terribly rushed. The limitations of a 22-minute show.
Next week's episode looks awesome!
-Savage's training. Agreed on the ESB parrelel. It's a twisted version of that training.
-Terrific Anakin/Obi-Wan interaction.
-An absolutely fantastic duel between Dooku, Ventress, and Savage. Pretty epic. I don't think Savage is stronger than everyone else but he's an unstable element and the dark side can lash out powerfully that way.
-Anyone else find Savage dragging the dead body of the Toydarian king to Dooku to be funny? Interesting bit of dark humor with Dooku's looney tunes type anger.
-Darth Maul lives? I really don't know what to think about tha. Maul should be dead, that's what made Obi-Wan a Jedi. Obi-Wan would have to kill him again. It could be a clone but that would be bringing up one of the worst storylines in the EU. I'm going to trust that GL knows what he's doing here.
The SW Infinities comic (released before ROTS) did a fun (non-canon even in the EU) where Obi-Wan battled a literal half-man, half-machine Maul on Tatooine. The artist did a good job of making Obi-Wan look like a mix between McGreggor and Guinness.
The main weakness of this episode and story arc is that it was terribly rushed. The limitations of a 22-minute show.
Next week's episode looks awesome!
Lord Maul was apparently raised and trained by Sidious since he was an infant according to his previous official bio. Not sure if they are going to alter this further, it's possible that he would have knowledge of how to build a Sith Holocron. Or more likely discovered a lost one on Korriban or something like that. I agree this episode felt rushed, but overall the last three episodes have been very satisfying.
Tonights ep did show one drawback to the fill in the gaps nature of the series - we know that Dookhu doesn't met his match until ROTS.
Theory I had about Savage and what appeared to Maul - for the Sisterhood he's too valuable to eliminate so send him off on a wild goose chase to keep him busy and then recall him when needed.
Theory I had about Savage and what appeared to Maul - for the Sisterhood he's too valuable to eliminate so send him off on a wild goose chase to keep him busy and then recall him when needed.
It's his twin brother Murray.
Anyone else think how amusing it is to be able to fly your ship into the hanger bay of your enemy, and never be fired upon?
Droid 1-Oh look, a Jedi ship's approaching...just let them land.
Droid 2-What? if we shoot them, they'll never bother us again.
Droid 1-But then the show would be over...
Droid 2-Roger Roger!!
They are altering the bio. Pray they don't alter it any further.
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