Star Wars:The Clone Wars S3......so far

[Christopher]

"Hunt for Ziro": They're really pouring on the OT references this season. The scenes on Nal Hutta incorporate all the familiar elements from Jabba's palace in ROTJ: Gamorrean guards, Twi'lek dancers, even Sy Snootles herself (who must have a pretty long lifespan -- and pretty lousy career growth over the next 20-odd years).

The other big reference was the inclusion of this Quinlan Vos guy, who I gather is a very popular character from the novels. Whatever makes him popular, though, didn't seem to come through onscreen. He just came off as a CG version of Stargate Atlantis's Ronon Dex -- big swarthy dreadlocked tough guy who doesn't say much and is kind of dull and annoying. Okay, he had more of a roguish quality than Ronon, but he didn't really do much overall, since there was so much else going on. Really, if this character does have a strong fan following from the books, I can't imagine the fans will be too satisfied by this episode. As for myself, having no prior familiarity with the character, I found him to be one of the least interesting guest Jedi this show has featured to date.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I guess Vos is supposed to have that roguish "bad boy" appeal. I was kind of surprised at Ziro's fate, even if you didn't like the character that seemed pretty harsh. Though picturing him with Sy Snootles is what tvtropes would refer to as Nightmare Fuel.

 

[Hound of UIster]

I guess Vos is supposed to have that roguish "bad boy" appeal.

The actual character? No.

 

[Cicero]

The other big reference was the inclusion of this Quinlan Vos guy, who I gather is a very popular character from the novels.

Oddly enough, I think he's technically a movie character (he originally was a background extra in The Phantom Menace, and was named as a Jedi Master serving as a commander on Kash . . . on the Wookiee planet in Revenge of the Sith).

 

[jep316]

it's funny what they can get away with on the show,dancers in skimpy costumes I wonder if it's because their Aliens?probably couldn't have any of the Human female characters dress like that.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Sure he wanted something ... but he wanted to get fruit back to a party. Not the kind of motivation you build around a scene that involves torture, either physical or emotional.

That depends on what it means to the character. All Charles Foster Kane wanted was a sled, but that was still the basis for a great movie. It wasn't about the fruit, it was about making sure that a sensitive diplomatic affair went off without a hitch. The senator Padme was trying to impress was very prickly about everything being perfect, and if something went wrong, he'd be offended and Padme's efforts to win him over to her cause would fail. This was important to Padme, and she was counting on Threepio to make it happen.

So it wasn't about fruit. It was about trust. It was about being entrusted with a responsibility by his mistress and not wanting to let her down, not wanting her to be disappointed in him. That's a motivation I can relate to very strongly.

I, too, kinda didn't care about Threepio's plight.

Charles Foster Kane didn't want the sled, but what it represented. Love, family, all of that--something that means something to me.

For Threepio, yeah, it meant something to him, and I see where trust comes into play, but, it didn't connect for me either. Mostly because it was about getting a party right. Whereas Kane spent a LIFETIME looking for the thing that he lost, represented by the sled.

The whole episode felt like a diversion.

And I actually never felt Artoo, to go to an earlier point, as vain or anything. Artoo has always been the one to clean up the mess of Threepio. Maybe on Dagobah... but other than that... I was really surprised that Artoo was so into his treatment he TOTALLY forgot Threepio.

 

[Mr Light]

"Hunt for Ziro" was interesting in spite of the fact that it basically stared Capote the Hutt Kudos for icing him in cold blood! And I'm liking Bane more with every appearance he makes.

I haven't read the Republic comics so I have no idea about Vos, was this a consistent interpretation of him? Are the fanboys incensed?

 

[DarthPipes]

As a long-time fan of the Star Wars Republic series, it was great to see Quinlan Vos. I only wish he had been in the episode longer and hope he returns.

Vos was the brooding Jedi-type who had been touched by the dark side. But then again, that was Anakin in the movies too and on the CW show, they both seem to be the roguish Han Solo-type. They did retain his abiliity to read the history of objects (Vos is from an ailen race known as Kiffax) so that was accurate. He was also the master of Aayla Secura, another character long ago "canonized" in the movies.

Ziro and Sy might be the most disturbing couple of all-time. Bizarre. Didn't expect Ziro to be killed, especially the manner of death. But he didn't exactly strike fear into anyone.

Cad Bane was terrific and we got another excellent fight scene.

The end with Jabba was pretty damn cool. Almost Palpatine-like in its execution and I guess this is how he becomes top Hutt.

Next week's episode is called "Heroes on Both Sides." This is a reference to the ROTS opening crawl. Filoni wanted to explore the idea of noble Seperatists.

 

[Christopher]

They did retain his abiliity to read the history of objects (Vos is from an ailen race known as Kiffax) so that was accurate.

Oh, I figured that was just a generalized Force sensitivity like Ahsoka's premonitions. The visual effect they used was the same as that (and as Anakin's visions of Padme's death in ROTS).

The episode guide calls it "a unique Force talent of psychometry," rather than a species trait. Maybe it's misusing the word "unique?"

Next week's episode is called "Heroes on Both Sides." This is a reference to the ROTS opening crawl. Filoni wanted to explore the idea of noble Seperatists.

I'm looking forward to that. It's about time someone picked up on that implication. It would be tricky to reconcile with the cartoony evilness of the Separatist leaders we've seen to date, though.

 

[DarthPipes]

True.

The origins of the war are never really discussed. Dooku was rebel-rousing against The Republic no doubt. But I always got the impression that The Republic grew so corrupt, that numerous worlds got disgusted and wanted to break away. Can't blame them with how The Republic is portrayed in TPM. I think a lot of Seperatist worlds had noble intentions but they threw their lot in with Dooku, who they didn't realize was a Sith. Where I always thought the Seperatist movement lost any credibility was tying itself to the trade guilds. You can't bemoan corruption and then join forces with that very same corruption and expect to retain credibility.

 

[Listener4]

I thought the Hutt episodes was the best this season. The threepio episode was just dull.

 

[huntz]

Did anyone notice in the lounge scene of episode 9, is it me or was Ziro's girlfriend singing a Stars Wars version of the song that the character Willy sang in the beginning of the movie Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom?

 

[Basill]

Did anyone notice in the lounge scene of episode 9, is it me or was Ziro's girlfriend singing a Stars Wars version of the song that the character Willy sang in the beginning of the movie Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom?

Yeah, I noticed that immediately and I've had "Anything Goes" stuck in my head all morning.

With such a song homage and the obvious Truman Capote comparisons with Ziro, does anyone else think those Hutts are meant to mimic any old gangster film character/actors? That cigar chomping Hutt totally reminded me of either Edward G. Robinson or Peter Lorre, or a cross between the two.

I loved the swamp speeders, but mamma Hutt with the "slug kitties" crawling all over her... too hilarious.

 

[lennier1]

... but mamma Hutt with the "slug kitties" crawling all over her... too hilarious.

Weren't those simply the Hutt equivalent to a cleaner fish?

 

[Christopher]

With such a song homage and the obvious Truman Capote comparisons with Ziro, does anyone else think those Hutts are meant to mimic any old gangster film character/actors? That cigar chomping Hutt totally reminded me of either Edward G. Robinson or Peter Lorre, or a cross between the two.

Yes, the episode guides for this week and last confirm that they are based on noted "gangster" actors.

 

[Whofan]

Regarding the origins of the Seperatists, I wish Lucas had come up with a better idea than simply another Rebellion, albeit one that was composed of businessmen and droids.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Did anyone notice in the lounge scene of episode 9, is it me or was Ziro's girlfriend singing a Stars Wars version of the song that the character Willy sang in the beginning of the movie Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom?

Yeah, I noticed that immediately and I've had "Anything Goes" stuck in my head all morning.

I guess it's been too long since I've seen Doom but that sounds like a nice touch.

 

[lennier1]

Regarding the origins of the Seperatists, I wish Lucas had come up with a better idea than simply another Rebellion, albeit one that was composed of businessmen and droids.

As opposed to the ingenious idea to start Episode I with a discussion about freaking taxes???

 

[Hound of UIster]

Yeah, I noticed that immediately and I've had "Anything Goes" stuck in my head all morning.

Yes that was a good song.

 

[Gaith]

Where I always thought the Seperatist movement lost any credibility was tying itself to the trade guilds. You can't bemoan corruption and then join forces with that very same corruption and expect to retain credibility.

It seems to be working for the Tea Party!

But heroes on that side? Yeah, not so much.