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Star Wars: The Clone Wars 1 X 11: "Dooku Captured" (Spoilers)

Jar-Jar may very well be force sensitive, I remember reading a story a while back about a charater who was born in the republic being very strong with the force, but his parents kept the Jedi from taking him and he grew up to be a very sucessfull, and lucky person

I know that while Jar Jar was fighting those tanks, I was thinking that it would be awesome if he used his "Summon Bigger Fish" force power to get out of this one, too. Just have some giant sea monster drop out of the sky and crush the pirates. :lol:
 
Anakin was indeed bait for the capture attempt on Dooku, and apparently that little salacious monkey was responsible for Anakin and Obi-Wan being drugged and captured, even though they managed to escape their drinks being spiked.

I wondered if I missed something in the middle of this two-parter. Your mention of the escape brings it back up... I remember the drink swap at the end of the previous episode, then I don't remember anything else. I've slept since then, lol. This episode opened with them in shackles. Did they show a capture that I am just not remembering today?
 
Anakin was indeed bait for the capture attempt on Dooku, and apparently that little salacious monkey was responsible for Anakin and Obi-Wan being drugged and captured, even though they managed to escape their drinks being spiked.

I wondered if I missed something in the middle of this two-parter. Your mention of the escape brings it back up... I remember the drink swap at the end of the previous episode, then I don't remember anything else. I've slept since then, lol. This episode opened with them in shackles. Did they show a capture that I am just not remembering today?

No, there is nothing about their actual capture and detention on the aired episode until they wake up there in shackles. In fact, in the episode they just mention they were drugged.

In the mini-comic, right after Anakin and Obi-Wan switch drinks with the unwitting Weequays, that little red monkey lizard is watching and intent on knocking the Jedi heros out. He tries several attempts but fails and eventually knocks everyone including the Jedi and himself out with the drug.
 
^^I was wondering about that. It seemed like a continuity error. Even if they did explain it away, it's bad writing to include a key plot point that can only be understood if you read the supplementary material. Everything the audience needs to know to follow a story should be included in the body of the work itself.
 
^^I was wondering about that. It seemed like a continuity error. Even if they did explain it away, it's bad writing to include a key plot point that can only be understood if you read the supplementary material. Everything the audience needs to know to follow a story should be included in the body of the work itself.
Bad writing, good marketing; that's getting more and more common in general, and has plagued the Star Wars franchise since Episode III. Not only do you have to watch the show/movie, you get hits drove to your website (and its attending advertisements) and make more money.

It's stupid, cause the bit with the monkey could have been a "blink and miss it" moment in Part 1, by just having him hop over them as their raise up their glasses. Or just have ALL the pirates passing out on the final pull out of the episode.
 
Jar-Jar may very well be force sensitive, I remember reading a story a while back about a charater who was born in the republic being very strong with the force, but his parents kept the Jedi from taking him and he grew up to be a very sucessfull, and lucky person

I know that while Jar Jar was fighting those tanks, I was thinking that it would be awesome if he used his "Summon Bigger Fish" force power to get out of this one, too. Just have some giant sea monster drop out of the sky and crush the pirates. :lol:

There's always a bigger fish.
 
^^I was wondering about that. It seemed like a continuity error. Even if they did explain it away, it's bad writing to include a key plot point that can only be understood if you read the supplementary material. Everything the audience needs to know to follow a story should be included in the body of the work itself.
Bad writing, good marketing; that's getting more and more common in general, and has plagued the Star Wars franchise since Episode III. Not only do you have to watch the show/movie, you get hits drove to your website (and its attending advertisements) and make more money.

No, that's not it. It's entirely possible to include supplementary material that enhances or elaborates on the main body of work itself while still structuring the main work in such a way that every vital plot point is included. The supplements are for filling in the details that aren't necessary to following the basic story. For instance, you can understand Star Trek's original pilot "The Cage" without knowing what actually happened in their fight on Rigel VII or what Vina's life was like before the episode, but those were elaborated upon in, respectively, an issue of Marvel's Early Voyages comic and the novel Burning Dreams. Material that the audience might be curious about but can live without is what belongs in tie-in fiction. Material that's crucial for understanding the basic plot of the story needs to be in the story itself. That's basic competence. If these people are doing the multimedia crossover stuff in such a way that the core work itself loses coherence, then they're doing it wrong.
 
^^I was wondering about that. It seemed like a continuity error. Even if they did explain it away, it's bad writing to include a key plot point that can only be understood if you read the supplementary material. Everything the audience needs to know to follow a story should be included in the body of the work itself.
Bad writing, good marketing; that's getting more and more common in general, and has plagued the Star Wars franchise since Episode III. Not only do you have to watch the show/movie, you get hits drove to your website (and its attending advertisements) and make more money.

No, that's not it. It's entirely possible to include supplementary material that enhances or elaborates on the main body of work itself while still structuring the main work in such a way that every vital plot point is included. The supplements are for filling in the details that aren't necessary to following the basic story. For instance, you can understand Star Trek's original pilot "The Cage" without knowing what actually happened in their fight on Rigel VII or what Vina's life was like before the episode, but those were elaborated upon in, respectively, an issue of Marvel's Early Voyages comic and the novel Burning Dreams. Material that the audience might be curious about but can live without is what belongs in tie-in fiction. Material that's crucial for understanding the basic plot of the story needs to be in the story itself. That's basic competence. If these people are doing the multimedia crossover stuff in such a way that the core work itself loses coherence, then they're doing it wrong.

Going back to the Episode III example, look at how they did that: If you wanted the "whole story", you had to watch the final few episodes of the original clone war shorts, you had to read the novel, play the game, etcetra to fill in all the background details. It wasn't such that the movie couldn't stand alone, it just that you didn't get the complete story-- or at least that's the way a lot of that stuff was marketed.

It's all a marketing scheme, it has little to nothing to do with the competence of the writers. What it has to do is some bean-counter sitting down and saying "Okay, how can we double down on the ad revenue out of these CGI cartoons?"
 
I agree with Christopher on this one. I'm all for supplemental material. The BSG webisodes are a great example of doing this right.

But for Obi-Wan and Anakin to escape being drugged at the end of one episode and wake up at the beginning of the next one, sitting in jail saying they must have been drugged? That's just plain stupid.

And how are viewers supposed to know this extra material exists? They don't promote it during the show.
 
i didn't even know there was any until reading this thread. glad i'm not the only one who went :cardie: at them waking up in the cell.

the lack of a 'previously' bit didn't help.
 
I agree with Christopher on this one. I'm all for supplemental material. The BSG webisodes are a great example of doing this right.

But for Obi-Wan and Anakin to escape being drugged at the end of one episode and wake up at the beginning of the next one, sitting in jail saying they must have been drugged? That's just plain stupid.

And how are viewers supposed to know this extra material exists? They don't promote it during the show.


I must agree here also. Though I really like the online comics and what they bring to the overall story (Really good artwork too most of the time) they really dropped the ball with this one.
 
I thought it was odd that they still got drugged/captured despite apparently having swapped drinks at the end of the first episode. My off-screen theory was that perhaps ALL the drinks were drugged so them switching drinks didn't even matter. Kind of like how in "The Princess Bride", Wesley defeated Fizzini (sp?) by drugging both drinks (but he had built up an immunity to the poison so he survived). :confused:
I imagine that the pirates probably figured that Obi-Wan and Anakin would find a way to switch them. I wonder if they did the same thing to Dooku? He never explained to Obi-Wan and Anakin exactly how they got him (although, in retrospect, it's not really THAT important but you'd think that Dooku would've been much harder to capture).
 
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