Spoilers Star Wars Resistance Season One discussion

[Reverend]

Yet another show whose design and animation were far better than Resistance. I guess there's a similarity in the target age level and the amount of humor, but at least A:TLA's characters were actually likeable, something I can't yet say about Kaz.

You do realise that that thing can be stylistically inspired by another thing and yet *not* a direct one-to-one copy, yes? And that said similarities don't necessarily equate to a tonal or qualitative equivalence, savvy? Or is all that too much of a strain on the old conceptual imagination?

 

[Christopher]

You do realise that that thing can be stylistically inspired by another thing and yet *not* a direct one-to-one copy, yes?

Objection, asked and answered in the first sentence of post #57.

 

[ALF]

Maybe we're confusing thematic/genre elements of anime with the visual characteristics, i.e. if it 'feels' or 'looks' like anime. It's not a secret that the show runners admitted to creating the show inspired by Japanese anime.

They even say so in the initial press release:
https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-resistance-set-for-fall-debut
STAR WARS RESISTANCE, ANIME-INSPIRED SERIES, SET FOR FALL DEBUT

 

[Christopher]

Maybe we're confusing thematic/genre elements of anime with the visual characteristics, i.e. if it 'feels' or 'looks' like anime. It's not a secret that the show runners admitted to creating the show inspired by Japanese anime.

Yeah, I remember that, but that's just what confuses me. Somebody here said specifically that the actual animation, i.e. the way the characters look and move, reminded them of Cowboy Bebop. I get that there's a storytelling influence, but I don't see anything in the visual design (ships aside) that suggests anime even slightly.

 

[The Wormhole]

Wasn't really impressed with this one too much. Kaz is annoying, and no one else is really making much of an impression. Alright, I kind of like that black mechanic with an attitude, she seems cool.

 

[Reverend]

Objection, asked and answered in the first sentence of post #57.

And yet you keep trying to come up with an objective justification for a subjective opinion. Just admit you simply don't like a thing. It's OK, it won't hurt, I promise!

Wasn't really impressed with this one too much. Kaz is annoying, and no one else is really making much of an impression. Alright, I kind of like that black mechanic with an attitude, she seems cool.

I don't disagree, but we've been here before with Star Wars animation...twice. I'm very willing at this point to just sit back and see where they're going with this. Also: bright, colourful cartoon for a younger audience has goofy comedic protagonist isn't all that out of place.

At this point, the most interesting "character" on the show for me isn't a person but a place. They've done a pretty good job of selling the Colossus as a living, breathing community. Maybe it's all the "golden age of aviation" nods, but something about this really reminds me of 'Crimson Skies'. I don't think it's a direct reference so much as shared DNA, since that IP also borrowed a lot from the old serials from the 30's & 40's.

 

[The Wormhole]

I don't disagree, but we've been here before with Star Wars animation...twice.

I know, and that's the main reason I'm willing be open-minded about the show.

That said, I know it's aimed at young kids who aren't as into certain nuances as adults are, and at this point it's probably a convenient means of providing exposition, but really, someone in this situation would not be constantly identifying himself as a spy. Realistically, at this point whoever the First Order mole is should know enough to avoid Kaz.

 

[Tuskin38]

A few people i've seen online (so obviously a very small sample size lmao) have said they've enjoyed these first few episodes more then the first few episodes of Rebels.

 

[Christopher]

A few people i've seen online (so obviously a very small sample size lmao) have said they've enjoyed these first few episodes more then the first few episodes of Rebels.

I didn't much care for the first episodes of Rebels myself. It didn't start to interest me until the second season, when they finally started getting into the big mythology stuff. I suspect something similar may happen here.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

A few people i've seen online (so obviously a very small sample size lmao) have said they've enjoyed these first few episodes more then the first few episodes of Rebels.

I enjoyed Rebels more at this point, by at least 12 parsecs.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

I'll remind people that both Rebels and Clone Wars started out with similar objections, stories too juvenile and animation not so great.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I'll remind people that both Rebels and Clone Wars started out with similar objections, stories too juvenile and animation not so great.

They did indeed.

 

[Christopher]

I'll remind people that both Rebels and Clone Wars started out with similar objections, stories too juvenile and animation not so great.

That's my source of hope, that this show will eventually improve as much as Rebels did. But it'll probably take a while.

 

[Ithekro]

I know Dave Filloni has considerable knowledge of what Star Wars is about, so I can trust that he'll produce something meaningful, even if it takes a season or two to come into its own (once the suits have stopped looked over their shoulders and once the new fanbase is more or less secured, they can "grow up" a bit).

 

[Christopher]

I know Dave Filloni has considerable knowledge of what Star Wars is about, so I can trust that he'll produce something meaningful, even if it takes a season or two to come into its own (once the suits have stopped looked over their shoulders and once the new fanbase is more or less secured, they can "grow up" a bit).

Didn't I hear that he's less hands-on with this one, and another member of his team is taking the lead?

 

[Ithekro]

Perhaps, but he's still the show's creator.

 

[Reverend]

I know, and that's the main reason I'm willing be open-minded about the show.

That said, I know it's aimed at young kids who aren't as into certain nuances as adults are, and at this point it's probably a convenient means of providing exposition, but really, someone in this situation would not be constantly identifying himself as a spy. Realistically, at this point whoever the First Order mole is should know enough to avoid Kaz.

Well if you want to get really nitpicky about it, by this point Kaz is probably guilty of desertion. I mean he's a Republic navy pilot who just decided to sign up with an unsanctioned paramilitary group mid-mission. Didn't even report back to base. But then this isn't the kind of show that dwells too much on such details and besides, I'm pretty sure the mole sub plot is just a catalyst, not the driving force of the whole season.

 

[Christopher]

Perhaps, but he's still the show's creator.

Sure, but that doesn't mean the people running the show day-to-day would make it the same way, or as well, as he would. The higher someone rises in the industry, the more shows and projects they become responsible for, the less hands-on they can be with each individual one, so they have to delegate to other people -- they help create and develop a show but then leave it in the hands of others to actually captain the ship, like Joss Whedon with Agents of SHIELD or Greg Berlanti with the Arrowverse shows.

 

[Kirk Prime]

I'll admit, I'm not all that impressed with this show at this time.

There was a huge difference between Clone Wars, Rebels, and Resistance.

Clone Wars had the A list characters. Rebels had them make appearances. All we got from Resistance is Poe and BB8.

But far more important than that is that Resistance has a similar problem that Solo had. No Jedi.

Star Wars without the Force isn't all that special or original.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

The whole reason for the interrogation of Poe in TFA is to reveal that he wasn’t a Force user and was still considered the best pilot in the galaxy.

There is plenty of room in Star Wars for non Force users and their stories.