Star Wars Rebels Season Three (spoilers)

[Christopher]

Not so sure about this last bit. I always assumed that Gardulla bought Shmi (and Anakin?) elsewhere and lost them to Watto while on Tatooine. Given that she was there with Jabba at the Boota Eve Classic suggests to me she comes and goes from Tatooine on a semi-regular basis. Possibly an ally or rival of Jabba's or another member of his particular clan.

Sorry, I phrased my statement misleadingly. Yes, I agree that Watto moved to Tatooine before he bought the Skywalkers. I was just working through the chain of causality backward -- the Skywalkers lived on Tatooine because that's where Watto lived, and I'm guessing Watto lived there because of the podraces, and the podraces were there because of Jabba.

 

[Ithekro]

I am trying to remember if Anakin mentions that they moved to Tatooine at some point when he was very little (like three or four), and had belonged to Gardulla the Hutt. Not sure when Watto won them though. Clouding the past is, when only the two Skywalkers talk about it briefly, and after leaving, Anakin doesn't like to talk about it at all. Slavers being one of his hot buttons.

 

[Reverend]

I am trying to remember if Anakin mentions that they moved to Tatooine at some point when he was very little (like three or four), and had belonged to Gardulla the Hutt. Not sure when Watto won them though. Clouding the past is, when only the two Skywalkers talk about it briefly, and after leaving, Anakin doesn't like to talk about it at all. Slavers being one of his hot buttons.

Just had a quick look and this is how the exchange is phrased.

PADME
How long have you been here?
ANAKIN
Since I was very little, Three, I think.
My mom and I were sold to Gardulla the Hutt,
but she lost us betting on the pod races.​

That actually makes it sound like they arrived on Tatooine when Anakin was about 3 and *then* they were sold to Gardulla. Who sold them to her and when she lost them to Watto is not specified.

I think there was a story in the EU about Shmi and her parents being enslaved by pirates as a child, but I don't recall exactly where that came from.

Only tangentially related but I do however recall something about an early draft of TPM having Shmi's surname being "Warka", which supposedly was going to indicated that "Skywalker" was a corruption of "Shmi-Warka". An interesting, though unnecessary way to dodge having to deal with even more Skywalkers and I can see why he dropped it.

I suspect the real reason why this part of the story was kept vague was to preserve a sense of the mythic nature of Anakin's origins and not some elaborate backstory about Darth Plagueis.

 

[Marc]

In the Star Wars novel Han states you can't track anyone in hyperspace.

For some reason I thinking that while you can't track some-one in Hyperspace, you can determine it from from their entry vector and that once you've entered hyperspace you can't change direction without returning to normal space and making another jump. In one of the original Thrawn trilogy books, the Chimera is tracking the Lady Luck but the Grand Admiral has them hold of on starting the track because he expects them to make a few jumps to throw off anyone who might be tracking them.

But that's not canon

 

[The Wormhole]

I was wondering the other day if Ben was originally (1977) meant to be from Tatooine?

Well, the script for ROTJ did say Owen was his brother, something which was even included in reference material that tied into TPM. So, it's not too much of a stretch that Lucas could have intended Obi-Wan to be a native of Tatooine.

And podracing doesn't really strike me like a major sport; it's so insanely dangerous that I question if it's even legal in the more civilized parts of the galaxy. It is run by a crime lord, after all.

Qui-Gon said there was podracing on Malastare, a planet which does have Senate representation.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

And then he had to explain to the Emperor how he managed to fail to shoot down the one X-Wing that somehow succeeded in blowing up the battle station that Palpatine had devoted more than 20 years of effort to getting built. That can't have gone well for him.

And just think it was only the start of Vader's shitty week as covered by the first few issues of the Star Wars ongoing and first arc of the Darth Vader comics.

 

[Christopher]

Qui-Gon said there was podracing on Malastare, a planet which does have Senate representation.

Things do often happen in places where they're illegal. It's hard to police an entire planet.

 

[Tallguy]

Well, the script for ROTJ did say Owen was his brother, something which was even included in reference material that tied into TPM. So, it's not too much of a stretch that Lucas could have intended Obi-Wan to be a native of Tatooine.

If you had to go with Anakin being Vader then Ben and Owen being brothers was such a fantastic back story. I weep that it was discarded. (I wish I was exaggerating more than I am.)

 

[Christopher]

If you had to go with Anakin being Vader then Ben and Owen being brothers was such a fantastic back story. I weep that it was discarded. (I wish I was exaggerating more than I am.)

For me, Star Wars is already too much the story of a single extended family. I like it that there are at least some core characters whose relationships are defined in other ways. It's enough that Obi-Wan considered Anakin his figurative brother.

 

[fireproof78]

Well, the script for ROTJ did say Owen was his brother, something which was even included in reference material that tied into TPM. So, it's not too much of a stretch that Lucas could have intended Obi-Wan to be a native of Tatooine.

Qui-Gon said there was podracing on Malastare, a planet which does have Senate representation.

Podracing is also featured in the bar in AOTC.

For me, Star Wars is already too much the story of a single extended family. I like it that there are at least some core characters whose relationships are defined in other ways. It's enough that Obi-Wan considered Anakin his figurative brother.

Exactly. The whole "Skywalker saga" annoys me to no end, and if Rey is a Skywalker that will frustrate me because then the galaxy is just one family reunion.

 

[Christopher]

Exactly. The whole "Skywalker saga" annoys me to no end, and if Rey is a Skywalker that will frustrate me because then the galaxy is just one family reunion.

Then you may be pleased to hear...

Spoiler: The Last Jedi

According to reports from the first screening of footage from The Last Jedi, Luke's first words upon seeing Rey are, "Who are you?" (No word on whether he follows it up with "Who, who, who, who? I really wanna know.")

 

[The Wormhole]

^^Which doesn't really prove anything.

Spoiler

If she is indeed his daughter, there's no reason he'd instantly recognize her after nearly twenty years.

 

[Christopher]

^^Which doesn't really prove anything.

Of course not, which is why I said "may."

 

[fireproof78]

^^Which doesn't really prove anything.

Spoiler

If she is indeed his daughter, there's no reason he'd instantly recognize her after nearly twenty years.

That was proof? O_o

 

[Shawnster]

Well, the script for ROTJ did say Owen was his brother, something which was even included in reference material that tied into TPM. So, it's not too much of a stretch that Lucas could have intended Obi-Wan to be a native of Tatooine.

Qui-Gon said there was podracing on Malastare, a planet which does have Senate representation.

You can have a more tame and civilized version of Pod Racing on a more civilized world and a wild, rule-less style in the outer rim. NASCAR, a legitimate sport, evolved from the illegal moonshine running days of a much less civilized generation.

 

[Tallguy]

Yikes! We only have four episodes to go! And two of them air the same day!!!

 

[Tuskin38]

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[Tallguy]

So he never actually meets Kenobi! It's a heat stroke induced Force hallucination!

 

[Ithekro]

Or just Ezra.

 

[Reverend]

I think it's been pretty obvious since the mid-season trailer that Kenobi is intentionally leading him waaaay out into the Dune Sea. Presumably to exhaust him, make sure nobody witnesses what's about to go down and if it doesn't go his way, make certain none of it can lead back to Luke.

Remember that by this point, Kenobi has been a desert creature for close to two decades. He knows the terrain and he has a much stronger connection to the living force than any Sith. That gives him a massive home pitch advantage. He can also afford patience while Maul tends to have a low frustration tolerance.