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Star Wars Rebels Season Four (spoilers)

Anyone know roughly where we are in the timeline by the end of season 3? I'm probably mis-remembering but I think season 3 was supposed to start two years prior to ANH. That's following a 6 month jump since the season 2 finale and that seasons one and two each cover about 18 months, with no real gap in-between them.

So depending on how much time has passed from 'Steps into Shadow' to 'Zero Hour', we could already be less than a year out from the events of RO & ANH, especially if there's another jump of several months.

Someone pointed this out on another forum, during the panel Dave Filoni changed his 'Ahsoka Lives?' shirt to an 'Ahsoka Lives!' shirt while the trailer was playing.
You can rewind the Stream on youtube and spot it.
Filloni is sneaky as ever. ;)

I'm going to guess most of the trailer footage is from the first half of the Season.

So far as I can recall, that's always been the case prior to this point. Hence the mid-season trailers being all new footage.
 
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Crazy theory, what if Ahsoka is the Wolf in the trailer? Crazy force magic. Also look at the wall paintings behind Kanan when hes facing the wolf. One of them looks like Yoda, even has a lightsaber on his hip.
 
The trailer got me thinking...

I wonder if, in order to get the way too tantalizing idea of the Ghost at Scarif, they're going to jump forward quite a bit and have a framing story of Hera telling the tale of the downfall of her crew before she, Chopper and whoever is left, fights in this battle before Yavin.

Who knows? Might happen.
 
Mandalore and Lothal might end up being very costly for the Rebellion.

I am actually hoping they don't kill Thrawn off, but introduce him to his future bodyguard then send them out to the Unknown Regions before the events at Scarif/Yavin.
 
Dave said this isn't the end of animation, not sure if he is referring to to just Forces of Destiny, or if there will be something else.
Oh, I'm sure we'll get another full length animated series, Rebels has been too popular for them to stop doing these kinds of shows.
I'm guessing any follow-up will be post-ROTJ. The ongoing Star Wars comic is handling the time between ANH and ESB very well and there really isn't a ton of time for stories between ESB and ROTJ. The timeline after that point is rife for stories.

Or they may do something crazy like go back before the saga. Who knows?
They could always just follows a new group of characters on a story that runs parallel to the OT. It would give them even more opportunity for tie-ins to the OT, and would give the series a nice chronology.
Having said that, I would love to see a series set in the KOTOR or Tales of the Jedi eras.
 
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Random things that jumped out at me in the trailer: -

1) Fully half of the trailer's run time is taken up by archival footage from the first three seasons. Impossible to be sure, but I think what we're seeing may only be from three or four episodes of the first half. Either they don't have a lot of it in a finished state, or they want to keep the cards very close to the chest for this last season!

2) @0:47 When the new footage does finally kick in we get a huge wolf, obviously inspired by Moro from 'Princess Mononoke', just like Filloni always wanted. The possible connection to Ahsoka is of course the most obvious, but it may just be a creature from Lothal as they're clearly seen in the old temple's wall art. Not that these are mutually exclusive possibilities.

3) Also in these same shots, it seems Sabine is either exhausted, or unconscious. Her body slumped, arms loose and head down, curiously with some kind of box balanced in front of her. Seems like they're escaping something, perhaps after obtaining said box?

4) @0:51 We see the Ghost evading a pair of TIE Defenders. The planet looks reminiscent of Shantipole with the rock spires and low cloud cover, but the scenery and weather seems significantly different so probably a different planet. Given the presence of the Defenders it may just be a part of Lothal we've not seen before now.

5) @0:56s Yavin 4. Massassi temples. 'Nuff said!

6) @1:00 I'm assuming from the flat baked ground that this is Mandalore itself, possibly right outside Sundari.

7) @1:01 Bo Katan Kryze kills a TIE and flies straight through the wreck as it's still exploding. Awesome.

8) @1:02 U-Wing on the same cloudy rock spire setting as before, blowing up what looks a lot like the energy shield projector on Endor.

9) @1:04 This is interesting. Not because of the RO tanks but because it looks like Hera is in a very different outfit. I'm guessing she's undercover? That would make sense if this is Lothal as you'd think her likeness (and the whole Ghost crew's) to be plastered on wanted posters all over Lothal, if not the entire outer rim territories by now.

10) @1:05 Saw standing in front of what can only be one of those huge kyber crystals. Presumably still on the trail that'll eventually lead him to Jedah.

11) @1:06 That has to be Sundari, though under Imperial rule it's outer shell is looking decidedly Death Stary, with a sickly, almost eerie green light from below. For some reason it's reminding me of Minas Morgul.

12) @1:08 Bo Katan looks weird translated into the Rebels aesthetic. But then I thought that about Vader, Yoda & Ahsoka too and quickly got used to it.

13) @1:09 Ruhk is looking more alien and yet at the same time less bestial than I recall the Noghri looking in the EU. I think it's an improvement.

14) @1:14 More of Hera and Zeb apparently in disguise.

15) @1:15 Clearly some kind of U-Wing variant. Possibly the more common civilian model mentioned in the RO ultimate guide?

16) @1:21 Captain Kallus? I'm assuming this implies Hera got her promotion to General by this point, otherwise that'd be weird.

17) @1:27 Kyber shipment goes boom?

18) @1:28 Is this a new world, or has the Imperial exploitation of Lothal over the last few years really screwed up the atmosphere?

19) @1:31 Yet another shot of Hera & Zeb in their apparently ineffectual disguises.

20) @1:35 Hey kids! X-Wings! *applause*

21) @1:36 Red Leader standing by?

22) @1:37 Mandalore the Ginger!

Crazy theory, what if Ahsoka is the Wolf in the trailer? Crazy force magic.

Are you nuts? For that to even be possible Ahsoka would have to have been infused with the lifeforce of a powerful force being capable of transforming into a giant creature at will! ;)

Also look at the wall paintings behind Kanan when hes facing the wolf. One of them looks like Yoda, even has a lightsaber on his hip.
Yeah, I can see it. Probably just a little easter egg, but still interesting. Also note, he's not the only figure there with a sabre on his belt. Interesting and possibly significant that neither are drawn or activated. It's not often Jedi are depicted like that.
 
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Looks like this is the elusive Green Squadron mentioned in the RO Visual Guide, but not in the film. Hera being Green Leader?
 
The trailer got me thinking...

I wonder if, in order to get the way too tantalizing idea of the Ghost at Scarif, they're going to jump forward quite a bit and have a framing story of Hera telling the tale of the downfall of her crew before she, Chopper and whoever is left, fights in this battle before Yavin.

Who knows? Might happen.

At this point, how many threads are still hanging? Saw and the Death Star discovery. I could see a time jump again for sure but they've already resolved some big storylines so I think it might fit the circumstances.
By the way, that wolf had better not be "Ahsoka..." (angry nerd face)
Great trailer breakdown, Reverend.
 
I suspect that Rebels will end with the Alliance knowing that there is something like the Death Star out there, but not what it is exactly.
 
I half expect Hera's voice over to be her talking to Mon Mothma on Yavin during the events of Rogue One. Hera was called into a briefing after the big gathering of the Alliance High Council, while Jyn was getting her talk from Cassian about "lets just go anyway". It would make sense actually. Hera is one of the original Alliance members now, and how she talks about where they started, leading this "this" would make sense if they dropped the idea of this Death Star, and that the Alliance wasn't going to do anything about it, on her. She'd be a bit depressed regardless of where her people were now. The Death Star would end them if they have nothing to stop it and the High Council will do nothing to stop it. But then they get the word that the recently stolen Imperial transport was again stole by a "Rogue One" might lift her spirts a bit and set things in motion for what happens later in that film. Green Leader leading her pilots from the Ghost.

I still suspect one of the last episode arcs will involve Princess Leia and her ship. Before Scarif.
 
Season 4 will be more serialized.

http://au.ign.com/articles/2017/04/15/star-wars-rebels-becoming-much-more-serialized-in-final-season

Filoni talks more about Rebels and the Battle of Scarif.

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They showed the first episode of the season at Celebration, here is a summary from Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsrebels/comments/65oww4/spoilers_summary_of_s4e01/

It begins with Sabine, Ezra, Kanan, Rau, and Clan Wren attacking an Imperial outpost where they think Sabine's father may be held. Ezra is wearing his painted scout trooper helmet and he has a jetpack he really does not know how to use. They start losing the fight, but Bo-Katan flies in and rescues them.
Sabine offers Bo the Darksaber, but she turns it down. The Jedi made her the leader of Mandalore at the end of the Clone Wars and when the Empire deposed her for refusing to cooperate she lost faith in her ability to lead. Hera contacts Kanan for an update. She tells him the Rebels need them back on Yavin and they can't stay on Mandalore much longer. Kanan heavily implies he wants a relationship with Hera, but she avoids the topic.
The outpost turns out to be a decoy and Sabine's father is being moved to Sundari for public execution. They intercept the convoy as it heads to the capital and there's a long, extended fight scene that ends in them successfully freeing her father. Meanwhile, the new leader of Mandalore, another member of Clan Saxon, sends the weapon that Sabine designed to be used to kill a large number of Clan Wren soldiers, including Ursa and Tristan. They get pretty much completely incinerated by the weapon, all that remains are armor scraps. The episode ends with Sabine devastated.
 
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At this point, how many threads are still hanging? Saw and the Death Star discovery. I could see a time jump again for sure but they've already resolved some big storylines so I think it might fit the circumstances.

I'd say that the end of Saw's arc in Rebels won't be his discovery of the Death Star, but his decent into paranoia and his expulsion from the Alliance.
Filloni said on the panel they they're going to have Mon Mothma show more of a range than we've seen to date, that she is a leader and can and will get fiery. I suspect the thing that would provoke such a reaction is Saw doing something reckless that endangers or even kills innocent bystanders.

Saw's story was never really about his hunt for the Death Star, that's just what was his focus was later in life. More a symptom of his need to find some meaning out of the endless and mostly fruitless years of strife and conflict than a true motivation.
 
So back at Celebration 2016 Dave Filoni had trading cards with Ahsoka art he made, and he said they give hints to what happened to her after the Dual with Vader. Well on the cards is a picture of her, framed with Wolves.

I'm pretty sure she is the wolf, or the wolf is some sort of representation of her spirit after she was killed by Vader. I doubt the wolf is going to be talking or intelligent, but be a force spirit animal of some kind.

Also remember, in the Mortis arc, the Daughter gave life essence to her. That probably ties in with it.

Dave Filoni is obsessed with both wolves and Ahsoka
 
^While something along those lines is the most obvious possibility (which in itself makes me think Filloni might not do it, since he knows a certain part of the audience are expecting it) I really don't think she was killed on Malachor. We saw her, very much in body and alive walking into the catacombs, as depicted in those cards.

What I suspect happened from Vader's perspective is that one moment they were locked in combat, then the weapon went off, he blacked out and when he came to she was just gone. One of those cards even shows her walking away from Vader, so that tracks.

As to what happens after that...going just by the cards it's tough to unpick the metaphor. If I had to guess, I'd say it was some kind of spiritual journey that left her profoundly and fundamentally changed. Like a force cave vision type of thing, but turned up an order of magnitude or three.

It's also worth remembering that Malachore isn't just any old place, what happened there left a profound mark in the force. Indeed, from the recent comics it's where Darth Maul was imbued with his lifelong hatred and need for vengeance. He was literally made to feel the pain, suffering and sense of betrayal of every Sith that died there. All those dead Jedi may have left an equally potent impression and perhaps that's what drove Ahsoka inwards.

She may still have physically died and become one with the force, or become something more akin to the Daughter, but only after her journey through the underworld.
 
There is a fan theory that one of the Convorees is the Daughter, it is has the same colour scheme as her
 
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There is a fan theory that one of the Convorees is the Daughter, it is has the same colour scheme as her
There's certainly an implied connection, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that's explicitly her. After all, she is very much dead. Not force ghost dead, but dead dead. As in there was a body that didn't disappear.

Probably closer to the mark is that it's an echo, or an aspect of The Daughter. Maybe even an aspect of the part of her that she gave to Ahsoka to bring her back from death and here it does so again.
 
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