Star Wars : live action series or more movies?

[Kirkman1987]

I think Star Wars should stay on cinema screens, hopefully with some good movies this time.

I love the idea of a deep character drama and all that jazz, but this is Star Wars. Star Wars has always been about non-stop action and adventure and special effects, even in the OT. Outside of hardcore fans, I don't think the Casual Star Wars audience would get behind a television project that wasn't as visually spectacular or large in scope as the films.

That said, I don't discount the possibility that this could be a great series, I just Think Star Wars belongs on the big screen.

 

[Whofan]

Yeah, Y-wings do show up in the Clone Wars CGI toon, although they're very different since they have all their hull plating and stuff.

But you're right about their being a lack of iconic ships and vehichles. Most of the stuff we see in the prequels are mainly "ancestors" of OT counterparts and don't look quite as well-designed.


The prequels sort of needed a Millenium Falcon but didn't really get one (Although the freighter class does have a few cameos). Although there is the Twilight in Clone Wars. Padme's ships don't count as she has a different one every film!

 

[I Grok Spock]

I'd like to see a Clone Wars-style show set between episodes 4 & 5, starring the original Star Warriors: Luke, Han, Leia, and co.

 

[PsychoPere]

I think he's currently doing the Red Tails project (Although he is producing, not directing).

That's changed. Back around March, there were reports that Lucas wasn't too happy with the way filming was going, so he took over directing reshoots. This article, though, denied the rumored conflicts and stated that Lucas took over simply due to Anthony Hemingway's commitment to David Simon's Treme.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I'd like to see a Clone Wars-style show set between episodes 4 & 5, starring the original Star Warriors: Luke, Han, Leia, and co.

Yep, me too. Between 4 & 5, between 5 & 6 and afterwards too. Animated or recast live action.

 

[Harvey]

I think he's currently doing the Red Tails project (Although he is producing, not directing).

That's in post-production, though, according to IMDB. I don't doubt that, either, since they were doing reshoots in March, and i can't imagine those lasting six months.

 

[JD]

As for the not finding writers thing..well, considering how many good shows there has been in the US television, there is lots of good writers our there.
Maybe Lucas just is too protective about his creation?
Or does he think he is better than the other writers? I hope not.
I am not saying that Lucas is not creative or a visionary, but he is not as good director nor writer, as many claim him to be.

Actually, the bit I quoted from wookiepedia, said that he had already found a writing staff, made up of people from all around the world, and that they had already written some episodes.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

These guys have the right idea! Lucas, pay attention!

Universal Lands Stephen King's 'The Dark Tower' And Plans Unprecedented Feature/Network TV Adaptation

Universal Pictures and NBC Universal Television Entertainment have closed a deal to turn Stephen King’s mammoth novel series The Dark Tower into a feature film trilogy and a network TV series, both of which will be creatively steered by the Oscar-winning team behind A Beautiful Mind and The Da Vinci Code.

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what they are doing here has never been attempted: using a major studio’s film and TV platforms simultaneously to tell a story.

But, but, but...how can they do such a thing on a paltry TV budget! It's not possible! Gee, could it be that they have some little things called imagination, vision and talent?

Ron Howard:

“The approach we’re taking also stands on its own, but it’s driven by the material. I love both, and like what’s going on in TV. With this story, if you dedicated to one medium or another, there’s the horrible risk of cheating material. The scope and scale call for a big screen budget. But if you committed only to films, you’d deny the audience the intimacy and nuance of some of these characters and a lot of cool twists and turns that make for jaw-dropping, compelling television. We’ve put some real time and deep thought into this, and a lot of conversations and analysis from a business standpoint, to get people to believe in this and take this leap with us. I hope audiences respond to it in a way that compels us to keep going after the first year or two of work. It’s fresh territory for me, as a filmmaker.”

EXACTLY! Know what TV and movies are for and write for each medium. Star Trek has been doing this for decades, in a haphazard way, sure, but at least they were doing it. Nice to see someone really putting some effort into the possibilities of a mixed TV/movie format.

 

[DWF]

Of course there's no proof that this Dark Tower series will even make it though the first season or be retooled midway though the first season.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The point is, they have the courage and vision to try. That's more than Lucas can say for himself. Face it, he's a hack.

 

[DWF]

The point is, they have the courage and vision to try. That's more than Lucas can say for himself. Face it, he's a hack.

So, you must've missed The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, which Lucas himself sites as the model for the Star Wars series. You're under the mistaken impression that he'd be writing and directing the Star Wars series when he did niether on the Young Indy show. How is he hacxk by the way have you somehow read the scripts for the TV show?

 

[JD]

Or Clone Wars. I really do think Lucas knows what he's doing when it comes to TV. As for him being a hack, I couldn't possibly disagree with you more.
While I'm willing to admit his dialouge and directing may not be amazing, he is an absolute genius when it comes to the worldbuilding stuff. And since those are the aspects of the show he probably would have been most involved with, I really think it could have been awsome.
The guys really does have some great ideas, it's just that they generally seem to work better when they are filtered through someone else.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The point is, they have the courage and vision to try. That's more than Lucas can say for himself. Face it, he's a hack.

So, you must've missed The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, which Lucas himself sites as the model for the Star Wars series. You're under the mistaken impression that he'd be writing and directing the Star Wars series when he did niether on the Young Indy show. How is he hacxk by the way have you somehow read the scripts for the TV show?

He proved his hackitude in the PT quite thoroughly.

The guys really does have some great ideas, it's just that they generally seem to work better when they are filtered through someone else.

Or just handed over to someone else. Star Wars hasn't been very strong in worldbuilding - inept is more like it. Just look at my thread trying to figure out what's up with the Force. That's a core concept in Star Wars, maybe THE core concept, yet everyone has a different opinion and all attempts to tease some logic out of the question are met with a muddle. The most accurate answers so far are, "it makes no sense, it's whatever they want to do to fit the plot." That's not my idea of competent worldbuilding. That's my idea of lazy, hack writing.

 

[fett51]

I seem to recall several years ago when Conan O'Brien did his ILM tour Lucas commented he wanted the live action series to be something in the vein of nuBSG or Firefly. I find the fact Lucas watched those shows to be extremely heartening - he's at least learned to recognize good dramatic writing. Clone Wars writing at least has been getting steadily better.

...does anyone know how RDM or Joss feel about star wars?

Star Wars hasn't been very strong in worldbuilding - inept is more like it. Just look at my thread trying to figure out what's up with the Force. That's a core concept in Star Wars, maybe THE core concept, yet everyone has a different opinion and all attempts to tease some logic out of the question are met with a muddle. The most accurate answers so far are, "it makes no sense, it's whatever they want to do to fit the plot." That's not my idea of competent worldbuilding. That's my idea of lazy, hack writing.

You realize that's partly because we're all drawing from different sources? The Expanded Universe is a disaster continuity wise - particularly the parts of it that predate the prequels. It's less that Lucas himself is an inconsistent writer and more that he let a zillion people go off and write what they wanted in his universe and completely washed his hands of keeping any kind of track of it all or keeping it consistent to his vision of the star wars universe. Clone Wars and the prequels have shown us he pretty much mines the EU for ideas he likes (Coruscant for example was invented by an EU author) and disregards the ones he doesn't.

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ I agree with the above poster...Dave Filoni has in my opinion done a masterful job of overseeing the Clone Wars series even with George's guidance. It does make it difficult to define something when there are multiple sources and they're both equally declared as canon as the EU is.

 

[Mr Light]

Joss Whedon loves Star Wars. "Firefly" was nothing more than "Han Solo: The Series".

 

[Temis the Vorta]

I don't dispute that people other than Lucas can take over and do good things with worldbuilding. That's why I'm checking out Clone Wars and the EU. I just haven't noticed that Lucas himself does a good job at it, when he's writing it, as opposed to delegating to others, something I suspect he should do a LOT more of. He likes video games, toys and tech. He should let other people do the writing, directing and casting.

 

[JD]

When I talked about worlbuilding I just meant that I find the amount of thought and detail he put into the universe really impressive, and IMO alot of those ideas are pretty cool. He really does seem to care about the universe.

 

[Whofan]

Didn't the prequels have co-writers? Johnathan Hales and Tom Stoppard?

 

[Mr Light]

Yes, but all they were allowed to do was slightly re-write dialogue.