Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens
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After Chewie was killed by a falling moon I just basically said: "Screw this crap. You guys have fun with....whatever this is."
I stuck around until they killed off Mara Jade in the lamest way they could have. I'm glad the EU is no longer canon.
At least you always know that the goofiest and dumbest Star Trek novels aren't canon to begin with, so it's easy to laugh at and ignore those stories and not have to incorporate them into any official chronology of in-universe events. The post-Jedi EU just got progressively sillier until it became too dumb to tolerate.
I'll never get why people complain about Chewie's death. I mean, are all the OT main characters supposed to have permanent main character shields? Did people expect him to die in his sleep? He died to save his best friend's son, and he went out howling at a falling moon. I have never been able to think of a better way for Chewie to go out, personally.
Mara Jade's death was BS, though. That said, I love the old EU, especially post Jedi. It will always be my main SW universe, with the current stuff the alternate universe. I'm sure I'll love TFA, and the new stuff that comes out, but it will never replace the old EU to me. The old EU made me a huge SW fan, more so than even the OT movies, so it will never be surpassed for me. I'm prepared and eager to really enjoy and even love the new movies and new books/universe, but I'll always be an old EU SW guy at heart.
Mara Jade's death was BS, though. That said, I love the old EU, especially post Jedi. It will always be my main SW universe, with the current stuff the alternate universe. I'm sure I'll love TFA, and the new stuff that comes out, but it will never replace the old EU to me. The old EU made me a huge SW fan, more so than even the OT movies, so it will never be surpassed for me. I'm prepared and eager to really enjoy and even love the new movies and new books/universe, but I'll always be an old EU SW guy at heart.
I just find the idea of Chewie howling as this giant moon kinda lazily fills the horizon to be ridiculous.
Then another part of me flashes back to the "Bambi vs Godzilla" video from the old Kenny Everett Video Show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAVYYe87b9w
Either way - God DAMN that's silly!
Then another part of me flashes back to the "Bambi vs Godzilla" video from the old Kenny Everett Video Show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAVYYe87b9w
Either way - God DAMN that's silly!
Part of my issue with Chewie's death is that it felt like it had to be an EVENT! rather than him dying. It isn't enough for him to die but to die in the most over-the-top way conceived.
Sorry, it might have fit with the story arc that was being done at the time, but by itself, does not work for me.
The old EU has some great stories in it, from Thrawn, to Kyle Katarn, and many others. But things like the Vong, Mara Jade, Jacen Solo's character arc, Cade Skywalker, among others.
I really am looking forward to reading Aftermath, and Shattered Empire, and get in to TFA. I liked EU, but this feels like a chance to get in to all over again.
Like I said, i'm very interested in the new stuff, and TFA is probably second only to the first Avengers film when it comes to movies I've been most hyped for before release. But, the new SW universe will never take the place of the old EU for me when it comes to what I consider my favorite SW stuff. Sure, the old EU had some bad stories, but less then some people accuse it (I'd say the vast majority is at least ok, with a huge part of that being good to great). Like I said, the EU is what made me a a big SW fan. My favorite stories in the universe (even over the OT movies) are all old EU. My favorite Star Wars character ever (including movie and EU only characters) is Mara Jade.
That's why the old EU will always represent Star Wars to me. For every Darth Caedus, there were several awesome characters. For every bad book, there were at minimum probably 5 great ones. My favorite books of all time are Star Wars books. I get why people are excited for the new stuff, and I'm excited to. I'm just saying that it will never take the place of the old EU for me. I'm sure we're in for some great stuff, but when I personally think about what SW is, the old EU will always be it for me.
That's why the old EU will always represent Star Wars to me. For every Darth Caedus, there were several awesome characters. For every bad book, there were at minimum probably 5 great ones. My favorite books of all time are Star Wars books. I get why people are excited for the new stuff, and I'm excited to. I'm just saying that it will never take the place of the old EU for me. I'm sure we're in for some great stuff, but when I personally think about what SW is, the old EU will always be it for me.
She was also part of the old EU. Now she is decanonized too.
I get that, and I agree, to a certain degree. The Thrawn Trilogy is probably some of the best of the EU (barring some bits) and I enjoyed the Jedi Academy series.
All of that will always have a place in my SW shelf. Lots of fun, exciting stuff there, but the films were what drew me in and kept me there. Favorite moment is still the Battle of Endor in space. Just lots of energy and intensity for my imagination fuel.
I'll probably need to crack some old EU just to stay fresh now
Good.
I get that, and I agree, to a certain degree. The Thrawn Trilogy is probably some of the best of the EU (barring some bits) and I enjoyed the Jedi Academy series.
All of that will always have a place in my SW shelf. Lots of fun, exciting stuff there, but the films were what drew me in and kept me there. Favorite moment is still the Battle of Endor in space. Just lots of energy and intensity for my imagination fuel.
I'll probably need to crack some old EU just to stay fresh now
Yeah, I get what you're saying. For me, it was the opposite. The OT, to me, is fun and exciting, but the EU is what made me a huge fan, as opposed to a sci fi nerd who just generally likes the movies. I totally get being the other way around though, I just happened to have been drawn in to the universe as a whole by the old EU, so it will always be my "main canon", and what I love most about the universe. I still love the OT movies though, and will probably love the new movies and a lot of the new comics/books.
Shadows of the Empire, the Han Solo and Bounty Hunter novels and the Thrawn Trilogy rank near or at the top for me when it comes to the books written and published under the old EU continuity, with Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader and Darth Plagueis right up there with them.
The elimination of the Yuuzahn Vong alone justifies the decanonization of the entire EU. I mean, I was never a big EU reader but their concept alone is terrible. References to them kept cropping up in reference works and stuff that I did read back in the day and my eyes would roll out of my head.
So, with the movie now less then three months away, shouldn't we really be seeing some more publicity now?
I understand that JJ doesn't want stuff spoiled. And sure, it's Star Wars, it kinda sells itself really. But by now, people are getting a bit annoyed I feel. Hardly any real info, and we could use a good trailer.
And you don't have to really spoil anything. Look at Marvel, giving us loads of trailers and tv-spots for Age Of Ultron, and they still managed to keep Vision under wraps for a long time, and show us enough in the trailers to still leave good stuff for the actual movie, like the floating city and Vision picking up Mjolnir.
I understand that JJ doesn't want stuff spoiled. And sure, it's Star Wars, it kinda sells itself really. But by now, people are getting a bit annoyed I feel. Hardly any real info, and we could use a good trailer.
And you don't have to really spoil anything. Look at Marvel, giving us loads of trailers and tv-spots for Age Of Ultron, and they still managed to keep Vision under wraps for a long time, and show us enough in the trailers to still leave good stuff for the actual movie, like the floating city and Vision picking up Mjolnir.
It'll happen when it happens. I'm in no rush.
I can't help but wonder how different he promotion for the movie would be if it wasn't shoved into JJ Abram's mystery box.
I love JJ Abrams stuff, but sometimes his to keep as much of his movies as possible a secret gets annoying. I understand not wanting to spoil things, but there are plenty of movies that are able to do tons of promotional stuff for months before the movie, and yet still leave stuff unrevealed.
I love JJ Abrams stuff, but sometimes his to keep as much of his movies as possible a secret gets annoying. I understand not wanting to spoil things, but there are plenty of movies that are able to do tons of promotional stuff for months before the movie, and yet still leave stuff unrevealed.
The thing is, without the internet to tell us that JJ is keeping things a secret, we wouldn't even know he was keeping things a secret. 
We live in a world of too much hype. Frankly, I'd rather not even know this movie was being made and then turn on the TV one day and be surprised by a new trailer. "Holy crap, they're making a new Star Wars movie?!"
We live in a world of too much hype. Frankly, I'd rather not even know this movie was being made and then turn on the TV one day and be surprised by a new trailer. "Holy crap, they're making a new Star Wars movie?!"
