Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[JoeZhang]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Possibly, but remember: the wisest, most powerful, well-trained and highly-skilled Jedi Knights in the entire galaxy

What the on-screen evidence for that? I remember a scene in the last one where a load of those guys get shot in the back?

 

[Captaindemotion]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

I think it's odd and slightly unimaginative to bring back Palpatine and particularly odd not to have McDiarmud play him. So I hope this turns out not to be true. I'd prefer there to be a new character who has taken the title Emperor.

 

[cooleddie74]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Possibly, but remember: the wisest, most powerful, well-trained and highly-skilled Jedi Knights in the entire galaxy

What the on-screen evidence for that? I remember a scene in the last one where a load of those guys get shot in the back?

One can be the best-trained and skilled in any profession and still be blind as a bat, utterly surprised or gullible. Best-trained, of course, doesn't mean perfection.

 

[Masiral]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Possibly, but remember: the wisest, most powerful, well-trained and highly-skilled Jedi Knights in the entire galaxy

What the on-screen evidence for that? I remember a scene in the last one where a load of those guys get shot in the back?

They were shot in the back by their own soldiers, who were just following orders, so there was no hint of deceit from them in the Force.

 

[JoeZhang]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Possibly, but remember: the wisest, most powerful, well-trained and highly-skilled Jedi Knights in the entire galaxy

What the on-screen evidence for that? I remember a scene in the last one where a load of those guys get shot in the back?

They were shot in the back by their own soldiers, who were just following orders, so there was no hint of deceit from them in the Force.

Would they have been able to shot Jack Reacher in the back? The answer is no.

There is nothing more to discuss.

 

[Iamnotspock]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

'when I met him, he was already a great pilot'

"I'm a pilot, you know, and some day I'm gonna fly away from this place!"

'Yoda, the Jedi master who trained me'

"Master Yoda said I should be mindful of the future..."

'I took it on myself to train him'

"I will train Anakin. Without the approval of the Council if I must."

From a certain point of view.

 

[cooleddie74]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Also, post-Episode I it was established that brand new child initiates into the Jedi Order first train with Yoda as members of groups such as the Bear Clan up until a certain point or age, then they're passed off to become the Padawans of Masters. My view is that Obi-Wan as a small boy was indeed trained by Yoda in the Jedi Temple but when that specific level of training ended he was presented to Qui-Gon Jinn to become his apprentice and thus complete Obi-Wan's training and transition to full Knighthood.

Thus, Obi-Wan's ghostly message to Luke on Hoth was correct. Yoda did instruct him. Just not for his entire climb towards becoming a full Jedi Knight.

 

[davejames]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

They were shot in the back by their own soldiers, who were just following orders, so there was no hint of deceit from them in the Force.

True, but somehow it still feels a little too easy to have most of the Jedi simply gunned down like that. I realize they're not all-powerful or all-knowing, but I still would have liked to see them put up more of a fight than they did.

When Obi-Wan talks of Vader hunting down and destroying the Jedi, I didn't think he was referring to the just the few stragglers who hadn't already been picked off by Palpatine's troops.

 

[Set Harth]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

He said that Vader helped the Empire do it, not that he did it all by himself.

 

[cooleddie74]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Yeah, I never believed Vader hunted down all the remaining Jedi all by himself or even with some Stormtroopers. Chasing down and erradicating the possibly hundreds of Jedi who managed to survive and escape the day when Order 66 was transmitted would require more than one Sith Lord in a mechanical life-support suit and some Imperial troops.

 

[Set Harth]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

You wouldn't think one would even need to be a well-trained Jedi Knight to sense Palpatine was up to something in the prequels. The guy was about as slimey and transparent as can be.

Meh. Art mimics real life. George W. Bush convinced virtually an entire country to go to war with another one on the premise that they had weapons of mass destruction - when they didn't have them -that cost America and many other countries over $1 trillion.

And now it looks like we're going back, on an even weaker premise!

 

[Doctorwhovian]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Rumors have it that Daniel Craig will have a cameo in the film.


Star Wars cameos are nothing that new but they're mostly by the production staff (Ben Burtt and Rick McCallum for instance are very visible at the end of TPM, and of course George himself played blue-skinned Baron Papanoida in ROTS. On the OT side you have Ralph McQuarrie as a Rebel officer on Hoth and Richard Marquand as a Walker pilot); I don't think a big star from another franchise has been in a cameo in any of the films

(Although some actors with small parts became famous after them-John Ratzenberger and Keira Knightley for example).

 

[Captaindemotion]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Mark Ruffalo supposedly wrote to Rian Johnson saying that he'd be up for a part in EP VIII.

 

[Reverend]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

You wouldn't think one would even need to be a well-trained Jedi Knight to sense Palpatine was up to something in the prequels. The guy was about as slimey and transparent as can be.

Given the level of corruption in the bureaucratic quagmire that was the senate, I imagine he must have looked downright inoffensive by comparison. Plus no doubt he'd been quietly moving things behind the scenes as Darth Sidious for years prior.

Whomever got him the nomination in the first place probably thought Palpatine was just some dupe or mouthpiece. Indeed, Sidious probably encouraged this view. While the execution in the films could have been better, they are at least consistent in that Palpatine never makes an overt play for power.

He didn't put himself forward for he Chancellorship, he was nominated and voted in. He didn't ask for emergency powers that essentially made him a dictator, they were granted to him by the senate (thanks for that Jar Jar! ) and he didn't declare himself Emperor out of greed, but he was "forced" into re-organizing the Republic after an "attempted Rebellion" and failed assassination by the Jedi.

 

[davejames]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Well he was nominated for Chancellor after "innocently" suggesting to Padme that the previous Chancellor couldn't be relied on and needed to be replaced. And the fact these emergency war powers just so happened to give him the power of a dictator should have been a pretty big clue to the Jedi as well.

I will agree a lot of this was really well thought out by Lucas, but it still requires the Jedi to be a lot thicker and slower than I'd prefer them to be.

 

[JacksonArcher]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Okay, this is amazing.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C7lUfVIOa4[/yt]

 

[davejames]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Yeah, I just saw that. Holy crap.

 

[Buck Bokai]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Was coming to post about that. Absolutely gets you in the feels, so awesome to see the Falcon again!

 

[davejames]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

Yup, I'd say JJ has definitely won this little contest. I could just watch this all day.

 

[JacksonArcher]

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

It's really incredible that they re-built the Falcon like that. That little bit of footage got me so excited.