Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[Mr Light]

Darth Plageuis is in the New Canon novel "Tarkin" which directly references the events and characters created in the novel, which to my mind makes the novel all but canon.

 

[Samurai8472]

New Chinese trailer

[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYgD7zylrE[/YT]

 

[cooleddie74]

Han talking to the Falcon as he pilots her. The first time in 35 years we've seen that image on a movie screen.

So.

Awesome.

 

[Tom Hendricks]

The Falcon crashing in the snow. Rey saying she's "classified" too. Who says "We will crush the resistance?" Because it doesn't sound like Andy Sirkis, but probably is. Is this the first time we hear Ren's Lightsaber? Because it sounds awesome.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, that's the voice of Snoke, no doubt talking to Kylo Ren or another high-ranking First Order toadie. Andy Serkis is very good at coming up with new and memorable voices for his motion-capture roles.

We hear Kylo's lightsaber activating in the very first teaser from last year, but we don't hear it humming and crackling as loudly as we do in that shot.

 

[Ithekro]

I like the shot of the Falcon and X-wings heading under a ring of a planet. There is another ship with them, but it is too far out to really identify right now.

 

[JD]

There was lots of great stuff in that Chinese trailer. I love seeing Han talk to the Falcon like that, and Rey's line about where she's from being classified was interesting. Kylo's lightsaber sounds cool. I love that it sounds just as unstable as it looks.

@JD: Do you mean in reply to Samurai8472? I did post about that action figure spoiler, but only in the Forum That Shall Not Be Named.

Yeah, sorry. I got the posts mixed up.

So... on today's Collider Movie Talk movie news show, they decided to show that sketch of Snoke I posted upthread. The team at Collider have also been speculating that Snoke and Plageus were the same guy since this all started, and then they discussed the topic on the show, the picture only fueled their belief that they were the same character. After airing the epsiode, Disney called them and asked them to remove all the Snoke discussion.

From John Campea, senior producer.

Hey guys, some of may notice that the title and thumbnail for today's Movie Talk has been changed. Pretty soon, the video itself will be edited down as well to remove the first topic discussed (it was a Star Wars topic). I just wanted to get on here before any speculation started as to why this is happening.
A few hours after the show posted, Disney contacted me and very respectfully requested that we take the segment out. Please understand Disney has never... in almost 10 years that I've dealt with them... EVER requested that I take anything down (nor have I ever put them in a position where they would feel the need to ask). My team and Disney have always had a very good relationship. When I talk mad shit about Agents of Shield, they have never asked me to "tone it down" or "please say something nice". They have always respected our editorial integrity. So when they politely called me and requested we take a topic down today I decided to grant the request. It wasn't an urgent story that fans "had a right to know" or anything important. I didn't feel that removing the topic was somehow a "disservice to the fans", or was in any way "important to the community". So I felt ok about pulling it.
It's important to know that the studios don't have any editorial influence over us, and Disney fully agrees with that. However, just because someone isn't your boss, doesn't mean you can't do something for them if they make a request. Today, Disney made a respectful request, and out of respect we obliged.
So that's it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask, I'll answer what I can. Cheers!

I don't see where that's any different than James Gunn jumping on Facebook to put an end to the rumor about Star Lord's father. They could just be trying to stomp out the rumor before it gets out of hand this close to the movie. Now it could be true, but we really don't know enough about Snoke or the movie's story to get defensive about rumors like this. Now, I've got a theory about Rey's parentage that I'm pretty sure is going to be true, but I don't know enough about her to feel comfortable arguing about it with people who don't believe it.

 

[cooleddie74]

I like the shot of the Falcon and X-wings heading under a ring of a planet. There is another ship with them, but it is too far out to really identify right now.

It may be the jungle or forest planet where Kylo, Finn and Rey have their battle but only the insiders and the creators know for sure at this point. I'm guessing that's what it is, but we have nothing more to go on than pure speculation.

 

[kirk55555]

Another trailer with really cool stuff. Han in the Falcon was great, and Rey's "classified" line was intriguing. I can't believe we're so close to premiere, for a long time it felt like it would never come

 

[davejames]

Wow, I had heard rumors about the Falcon crashing at some point in the movie, but didn't think they would actually give it away in the trailers.

I really hope it's true that there's still a ton of stuff we haven't seen yet, and that all the major setpieces haven't already been given away...

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I really hope it's true that there's still a ton of stuff we haven't seen yet, and that all the major setpieces haven't already been given away...

If my reading of the behind the scenes info is right, there are some pretty major developments that have remained well hidden from the majority of the audience. I don't really care about spoilers, so I've been reading every little bit of news, toy releases, concept art, leaked info, set photos, interviews, etc. and there are still things that you can make suppositions about but haven't been confirmed.

If you're the type of person who likes to remain unspoiled, Abrams runs a pretty tight ship in terms of secrets. If you're (general you) the type of person who likes to know a lot about the film before seeing it, the whole "Abrams mystery box" probably drives you nuts. I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't mind spoilers, but the secrecy doesn't particularly bother me either.

It's certainly not like the Batman v Superman trailer that pretty much gave away the entire three-act structure and revealed the previously unconfirmed act three big bad, though, or the Terminator Genysis trailers and TV spots that gave away a huge twist about John Conner.

 

[fireproof78]

I really hope it's true that there's still a ton of stuff we haven't seen yet, and that all the major setpieces haven't already been given away...

If my reading of the behind the scenes info is right, there are some pretty major developments that have remained well hidden from the majority of the audience. I don't really care about spoilers, so I've been reading every little bit of news, toy releases, concept art, leaked info, set photos, interviews, etc. and there are still things that you can make suppositions about but haven't been confirmed.

If you're the type of person who likes to remain unspoiled, Abrams runs a pretty tight ship in terms of secrets. If you're (general you) the type of person who likes to know a lot about the film before seeing it, the whole "Abrams mystery box" probably drives you nuts. I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't mind spoilers, but the secrecy doesn't particularly bother me either.

It's certainly not like the Batman v Superman trailer that pretty much gave away the entire three-act structure and revealed the previously unconfirmed act three big bad, though, or the Terminator Genysis trailers and TV spots that gave away a huge twist about John Conner.

I'm with you in that I won't actively avoid spoilers but I also don't mind the secrecy. We will know soon enough, is kind of my attitude.

Also, I'm really impressed to see stormtroopers being able to face off against a lightaber. That was a neat addition.

 

[Kor]

Huzzah, this looks like the movie I wanted in 1999. It's about time!

Who's the fellow being escorted by the trooper at 1:42?

Kor

 

[arch101]

OH NO! The Chinese trailer spoiled too much of the movie for me! Now I won't go to see it...

...said nobody ever.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Who's the fellow being escorted by the trooper at 1:42?

Poe Dameron

Spoiler: Poe & Finn

Finn has a change of heart after witnessing the slaughter of a village on Jakku, and decides to help the recently captured Poe escape the Star Destroyer if he will help Finn defect to the Resistance.

Finn changes out of his Stormtrooper gear and into Poe's civilian outfit (which is why they're wearing the same clothes) and they steal a TIE Fighter, which is hit in the escape attempt and tumbles toward Jakku, where Finn meets Rey.

 

[DWF]

^^Except that Finn is seen on Jakku still wearing his stormtrooper outfit.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

^ Ah, true. Well, at some point they become BFFs and share outfits and have pillow fights. Probably later on when Poe and Finn are back at the Resistance Base.

 

[Mr Light]

Alright, I think it's time for me to start a no spoiler policy. I'm not gonna watch this Chinese trailer and I'm going dark on Star Wars news until I see the movie. We're only a week away at this point. Squee!

 

[Tom Hendricks]

It has to be Poe piloting the Tie down. When it's hit and crashes, Finn exits in Stormtrooper gear. Yet later he is wearing Poes outfit. So I imagine that Poe is knocked unconscious or appears dead and Finn appropriates his clothing.

 

[cooleddie74]

The Stormtrooper escorting Poe through the First Order hallway may indeed be Finn and this shot could well precede the moment where Finn reveals he wants to jump ship in protest over what he's witnessed, helping Poe escape in the process. I don't know if both men are in the TIE Fighter when it gets hit and crashes onto Jakku, but it would explain how Poe gets off the Star Destroyer as well as how Finn obtains Poe's Resistance jacket and other clothes.