Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[cooleddie74]

Although Harrison Ford has said it is, to paraphrase, a fantastic movie and that it'll live up to expectations. For Harrison, that's pretty verbose and excited about one of his films. If he's smiling this much and says the fans will be very pleased then I don't think it'll be a letdown that the studio and other actors are being restrained about.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Although Harrison Ford has said it is, to paraphrase, a fantastic movie and that it'll live up to expectations. For Harrison, that's pretty verbose and excited about one of his films. If he's smiling this much and says the fans will be very pleased then I don't think it'll be a letdown that the studio and other actors are being restrained about.

I saw a comment someone made that they think they replaced Harrison Ford with a cheerier double after his airplane accident.

 

[sojourner]

Maybe he came out if it with a more "happy to be alive" disposition.

 

[cooleddie74]

Quick, somebody play the Comic-Con footage reel backwards and see if it says "Harrison is Dead."

 

[KennyB]

I have to say though, I'm a tiny bit concerned that the only person so far who has sounded genuinely thrilled and excited by what he saw was Boyega. Everyone else is basically just like "yeah it was a good movie." Which doesn't seem like the most glowing endorsement ever (and even Daisy Ridley seems more emotional just over seeing herself on the big screen for the first time, more than about the movie itself...

I'm guessing you missed Steven Spielberg watching TFA 3 times so far and saying "it may the the best movie of all time" story from a few days ago? I don't know if he was being cheeky or if he was serious, high praise though.

 

[davejames]

Well yeah, but Spielberg also said the prequels were amazing as well beforehand, so I'm not sure he's the most reliable person when it comes to these things.

 

[Tulin]

10 days now for me, folks!

Getting pretty bloody EXCITED here!!!!!

 

[P0sitr0nic]

Well yeah, but Spielberg also said the prequels were amazing as well beforehand, so I'm not sure he's the most reliable person when it comes to these things.

To be honest, at the time, the prequils WERE pretty great, weve just had 15 years to pick them apart.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Yeah, it is a spoiler, but not a major one. I wouldn't say it was any bigger of a spoiler than the stuff we've seen in the trailers. With the way FSM reacted, I was expecting something huge like what Luke's role is or if Rey's rumored parentage was true.

Wellllll.....

Spoiler: spoiler

We see Finn facing Kylo Ren with lightsabers in a snowy forest .. and Finn looks terrified.
We've seen Rey with a saber in a similar environment in concept art,

If Finn falls to Kylo, that could be who Rey is crying over in the trailer (same forest in the background)

That's no small spoiler, considering what can be extrapolated...

 

[CorporalCaptain]

That's no small spoiler, considering what can be extrapolated...

For anyone who's seen the trailers, it's not a spoiler at all, given that the tweet tells us that, yep, what it looks like is about to happen in the trailers is in fact going to happen in the film. So, all that can be inferred after Ford's tweet could have been inferred before it. If you watch a trailer that depicts something as super-likely to happen, and then you have it confirmed that, yep, it happens, that's not a spoiler.

Now, for those who haven't seen the trailers, sure it's a spoiler.

Also, the tweet says nothing about what you've extrapolated. Your extrapolation is based on a theory about preproduction art, which is itself its own kind of spoiler. Again, that was already "spoiled" by looking at the trailers and making inferences regarding the art. Ford's tweet doesn't affect the extrapolations from the preproduction art one way or another. There's still nothing solid about what's going on in them in terms of what's in the film, same as before the tweet.

 

[Venardhi]

Well yeah, but Spielberg also said the prequels were amazing as well beforehand, so I'm not sure he's the most reliable person when it comes to these things.

To be honest, at the time, the prequils WERE pretty great, weve just had 15 years to pick them apart.

Well, I suppose some people managed to live in denial longer than others.

 

[Set Harth]

Well, you know what they say: groupthink is never wrong.

 

[cooleddie74]

HelloGreedo the YouTube fan and reviewer has a great comment about Episode II in his new video about Attack of the Clones. I paraphrase:

"Were the Clone Wars anything like I pictured they'd be when I was a kid? No, they weren't anything close to what I'd pictured, but then you don't have to cater to my specific expectations of what something should look like.

On the other hand, any movie titled Attack of the Clones where the Clones don't even attack until twenty minutes before the end credits roll?

Yikes."

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

That's no small spoiler, considering what can be extrapolated...

For anyone who's seen the trailers, it's not a spoiler at all, given that the tweet tells us that, yep, what it looks like is about to happen in the trailers is in fact going to happen in the film. So, all that can be inferred after Ford's tweet could have been inferred before it. If you watch a trailer that depicts something as super-likely to happen, and then you have it confirmed that, yep, it happens, that's not a spoiler.

Now, for those who haven't seen the trailers, sure it's a spoiler.

Also, the tweet says nothing about what you've extrapolated. Your extrapolation is based on a theory about preproduction art, which is itself its own kind of spoiler. Again, that was already "spoiled" by looking at the trailers and making inferences regarding the art. Ford's tweet doesn't affect the extrapolations from the preproduction art one way or another. There's still nothing solid about what's going on in them in terms of what's in the film, same as before the tweet.

I think we have a difference of opinion.

Spoiler: spoiler

I mean we've NEVER seen Rey with a lightsaber. Never. We still haven't. We've seen Finn with a lightsaber, and clearly the implication is that he can wield it (he holds it right and even fights a shocktrooper) The marketing is showing that Finn's journey is him using that saber to fight Kylo Ren by the end of the movie.. not that he will die and Rey will take it up.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Here's a new official map of the Galaxy Far Far Away from The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary, including new locations from the film and tie-ins like "Starkiller Base Origin Point, Jakku, D'Qar, Takodana, and Hosnian Prime."

(click to enlarge)

 

[JD]

Yeah, it is a spoiler, but not a major one. I wouldn't say it was any bigger of a spoiler than the stuff we've seen in the trailers. With the way FSM reacted, I was expecting something huge like what Luke's role is or if Rey's rumored parentage was true.

Wellllll.....

Spoiler: spoiler

We see Finn facing Kylo Ren with lightsabers in a snowy forest .. and Finn looks terrified.
We've seen Rey with a saber in a similar environment in concept art,

If Finn falls to Kylo, that could be who Rey is crying over in the trailer (same forest in the background)

That's no small spoiler, considering what can be extrapolated...

But being able to extrapolate from something doesn't make the original information a spoiler.

That's no small spoiler, considering what can be extrapolated...

For anyone who's seen the trailers, it's not a spoiler at all, given that the tweet tells us that, yep, what it looks like is about to happen in the trailers is in fact going to happen in the film. So, all that can be inferred after Ford's tweet could have been inferred before it. If you watch a trailer that depicts something as super-likely to happen, and then you have it confirmed that, yep, it happens, that's not a spoiler.

Now, for those who haven't seen the trailers, sure it's a spoiler.

Also, the tweet says nothing about what you've extrapolated. Your extrapolation is based on a theory about preproduction art, which is itself its own kind of spoiler. Again, that was already "spoiled" by looking at the trailers and making inferences regarding the art. Ford's tweet doesn't affect the extrapolations from the preproduction art one way or another. There's still nothing solid about what's going on in them in terms of what's in the film, same as before the tweet.

I think we have a difference of opinion.

Spoiler: spoiler

I mean we've NEVER seen Rey with a lightsaber. Never. We still haven't. We've seen Finn with a lightsaber, and clearly the implication is that he can wield it (he holds it right and even fights a shocktrooper) The marketing is showing that Finn's journey is him using that saber to fight Kylo Ren by the end of the movie.. not that he will die and Rey will take it up.

But we don't know for a fact all of that is going to happen. You think that stuff is going to happen, but just because you think something is going to happen, doesn't mean it will happen and that it is a spoiler.
Besides I doubt very much that Finn will die.

Spoiler: Why I don't think Finn will die, only kinda slightly spoilery

We already know that John Boyega was doing chemistry read throughs with new actress being cast for EVIII, and I doubt they would bother doing that if he dies in TFA.

 

[DWF]

I think it's safe to say that Poe, Rey and Finn are in all three movies. but if one of them is to be trained by Luke to be a Jedi, if they're still following the Joseph Conrad mold Luke is certain to die.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Yeah, it is a spoiler, but not a major one. I wouldn't say it was any bigger of a spoiler than the stuff we've seen in the trailers. With the way FSM reacted, I was expecting something huge like what Luke's role is or if Rey's rumored parentage was true.

Wellllll.....

Spoiler: spoiler

We see Finn facing Kylo Ren with lightsabers in a snowy forest .. and Finn looks terrified.
We've seen Rey with a saber in a similar environment in concept art,

If Finn falls to Kylo, that could be who Rey is crying over in the trailer (same forest in the background)

That's no small spoiler, considering what can be extrapolated...

But being able to extrapolate from something doesn't make the original information a spoiler.

For anyone who's seen the trailers, it's not a spoiler at all, given that the tweet tells us that, yep, what it looks like is about to happen in the trailers is in fact going to happen in the film. So, all that can be inferred after Ford's tweet could have been inferred before it. If you watch a trailer that depicts something as super-likely to happen, and then you have it confirmed that, yep, it happens, that's not a spoiler.

Now, for those who haven't seen the trailers, sure it's a spoiler.

Also, the tweet says nothing about what you've extrapolated. Your extrapolation is based on a theory about preproduction art, which is itself its own kind of spoiler. Again, that was already "spoiled" by looking at the trailers and making inferences regarding the art. Ford's tweet doesn't affect the extrapolations from the preproduction art one way or another. There's still nothing solid about what's going on in them in terms of what's in the film, same as before the tweet.

I think we have a difference of opinion.

Spoiler: spoiler

I mean we've NEVER seen Rey with a lightsaber. Never. We still haven't. We've seen Finn with a lightsaber, and clearly the implication is that he can wield it (he holds it right and even fights a shocktrooper) The marketing is showing that Finn's journey is him using that saber to fight Kylo Ren by the end of the movie.. not that he will die and Rey will take it up.

But we don't know for a fact all of that is going to happen. You think that stuff is going to happen, but just because you think something is going to happen, doesn't mean it will happen and that it is a spoiler.
Besides I doubt very much that Finn will die.

Spoiler: Why I don't think Finn will die, only kinda slightly spoilery

We already know that John Boyega was doing chemistry read throughs with new actress being cast for EVIII, and I doubt they would bother doing that if he dies in TFA.

I heard that story too about the chemistry reads. Certainly they wouldn't say if what I think will happen actually happens.. it's from the same director, after all, that said Khan is definitely not in STiD

Spoiler: ok..

Regardless, I feel that Finn will be seriously injured.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

That's no small spoiler, considering what can be extrapolated...

For anyone who's seen the trailers, it's not a spoiler at all, given that the tweet tells us that, yep, what it looks like is about to happen in the trailers is in fact going to happen in the film. So, all that can be inferred after Ford's tweet could have been inferred before it. If you watch a trailer that depicts something as super-likely to happen, and then you have it confirmed that, yep, it happens, that's not a spoiler.

Now, for those who haven't seen the trailers, sure it's a spoiler.

Also, the tweet says nothing about what you've extrapolated. Your extrapolation is based on a theory about preproduction art, which is itself its own kind of spoiler. Again, that was already "spoiled" by looking at the trailers and making inferences regarding the art. Ford's tweet doesn't affect the extrapolations from the preproduction art one way or another. There's still nothing solid about what's going on in them in terms of what's in the film, same as before the tweet.

I'm just gonna say please disregard what I wrote here. Or, if you prefer, I retract.

Honestly, in all the to-do you were making, with what Ford tweeted, what you were pointing out in the trailer, and what you were inferring from the preproduction art, at first, I didn't quite follow all of what it was that you thought was spoiled. I could connect the dots and explain how I originally interpreted what you wrote, but it's really not that important. Simplest to say just please disregard, and let's start over.

Starting over:

Based simply on what's been seen in the trailers (oh, yeah, and that Duracell commercial), what Ford said isn't a surprise to me at all, and I don't really feel spoiled by it.

Also, I find it awkward to have a conversation half in and half out of spoiler tags. I'd rather have a thread where we didn't have to worry about it at all. If too much of conversation has to take place behind spoiler tags, then I start thinking that we're in the wrong thread, but perhaps that's just me.

 

[fireproof78]

HelloGreedo the YouTube fan and reviewer has a great comment about Episode II in his new video about Attack of the Clones. I paraphrase:

"Were the Clone Wars anything like I pictured they'd be when I was a kid? No, they weren't anything close to what I'd pictured, but then you don't have to cater to my specific expectations of what something should look like.

On the other hand, any movie titled Attack of the Clones where the Clones don't even attack until twenty minutes before the end credits roll?

Yikes."

But, boy, those 20 minutes were great, were they not?

Sorry, I know that many enjoy the PT and find it to be fun and entertaining. I think I was the most entertained with AOTC but it wasn't "great" for me. And before there is any commenting on expectations, keep in mind that I was 15 at the time TPM came out and Star Wars was what my friends and I did, in some way, on a daily to weekly basis. But, TPM was not enjoyable, other than all the marketing (whoah) and "Duel of the Fates."

That's it. It didn't feel like Star Wars to me, and that was before I knew about the Internet or the fan rage that burned there about the PT.

For me, the PT was never "great" and I felt that way since TPM. Obviously, YMMV.