Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[Venardhi]

There wasn't anything particularly feminine about Zam Wesell's outfit other than the shape of the actress's body and that wasn't even proper armor. I really don't see why this has you in such a huff. Why should her gender be so damned important as to put it before other character considerations or the functionality of the armor? If the character isn't one that would specifically highlight her femininity then why should the costume design? There is nothing "drag" about it, and there is nothing about the design of the armor that is specifically masculine. As soon as I saw the first shot of her in the trailer I had a feeling it was a woman and specifically that it was Gwendoline Christie, so if they're going for a big reveal they aren't doing a great job of it.

 

[fireproof78]

The Rebels however were never a resistance, since they were fighting their own government and not repelling an external one.

Is that a longstanding convention in English grammar? I've never thought of it that way before; I've been assuming that "rebellion" and "resistance" are basically synonymous and that a "resistance" fights internal, not external threats.

I don't think there's any hard and fast rule about it, but 'to rebel' does imply that what you're rebelling against is something you used to accept (like the government you grew up with), while 'to resist' implies that you have not yet accepted it at all (like a foreign occupation). But I don't think that's a guarantee that the Rebel Alliance couldn't be considered a resistance. There's always the possibility that the core of the Alliance has existed and worked against Palpatine since before the Empire was ever made official, which would mean they've been resisting the whole time...

Obviously, that refers to plate, but the design concept is the same.

To be fair, there's not much reason to think it is. Stormtroopers typically aren't fighting people with broadswords and warhammers. The armor could use any design they want to think up - all they have to say is that design is better at 'dissipating energy blasts' or something similar. Not that ST armor has ever been any good at defending against energy weapons, either...

That's fair. I guess my point is more that the armor is designed to stop trauma (in some way, really), so maybe it was originally designed for blunt force trauma, and blasters just punch right through it

Regardless, the boob plate has become fan favorite in designs, but I think trooper armor could be feminine without that plate. And I still maintain that having the cups there would direct blaster fire to center mass, so that's a bad thing

 

[davejames]

The Chrometrooper's armor looks awesome just the way it is, and I think it's even cooler that Christie is playing her.

 

[EnsignRicky]

I don't think there's ever BEEN a SW female character in armor, not in one of the major films.

Actually Leia Had the Boush Armor. No boobs on that one, though it could be argued that Boush was known to be male. Besides, she would go on to more than make up for that oversight with her very next costume change.

However, Charal from Ewoks The Battle For Endor here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Charal is sporting something much more in the spirit of what I think we're talking about.

 

[cooleddie74]

Well they could have at least given her prominent nipples.

That's for the special Comic-Con costumes that show up after it gets dark.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I don't think there's ever BEEN a SW female character in armor, not in one of the major films.

Actually Leia Had the Boush Armor. No boobs on that one, though it could be argued that Boush was known to be male. Besides, she would go on to more than make up for that oversight with her very next costume change.

However, Charal from Ewoks The Battle For Endor here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Charal is sporting something much more in the spirit of what I think we're talking about.

Sabine from Star Wars Rebels has Mandalorian armor. But it's a combination of Boba Fett's chest armor with something women actually wear in combat. It's form fitting, but that's about it.

 

[JD]

There wasn't anything particularly feminine about Zam Wesell's outfit other than the shape of the actress's body and that wasn't even proper armor. I really don't see why this has you in such a huff. Why should her gender be so damned important as to put it before other character considerations or the functionality of the armor? If the character isn't one that would specifically highlight her femininity then why should the costume design? There is nothing "drag" about it, and there is nothing about the design of the armor that is specifically masculine. As soon as I saw the first shot of her in the trailer I had a feeling it was a woman and specifically that it was Gwendoline Christie, so if they're going for a big reveal they aren't doing a great job of it.

I think it's also worth keeping in mind that armor like what the Stormtroopers wear is also typically uniform, in order to create a frightening anonymous force. Giving women boob armor would make them standout from the men, and that would go against that anonymity and uniformity. I know chrome armor does make Phasma more unique, but we don't know for a fact she is the only chrometrooper. Even if she is, it still follows the basic design of the traditional armor, so they were obviously still trying to go for at least some of the anonymity and uniformity.
And just for the hell of it, here's what Gwendoline Christie's character, Brienne of Tarth, wears in GoT.
So this will be the second character she's played who wears sensible armor.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I don't think there's ever BEEN a SW female character in armor, not in one of the major films.

Actually Leia Had the Boush Armor. No boobs on that one, though it could be argued that Boush was known to be male. Besides, she would go on to more than make up for that oversight with her very next costume change.

However, Charal from Ewoks The Battle For Endor here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Charal is sporting something much more in the spirit of what I think we're talking about.

Of course we all know how important it is to base your designs on The Battle for Endor.

 

[BillJ]

The Rebel Alliance, which was short for the Alliance to Restore the Republic (at least in the old EU and, I believe, the official film novelizations).

I wonder who was the sacrificial lamb who got sent to the Empire trademark office to take care of the paperwork?

 

[fireproof78]

The Rebel Alliance, which was short for the Alliance to Restore the Republic (at least in the old EU and, I believe, the official film novelizations).

I wonder who was the sacrificial lamb who got sent to the Empire trademark office to take care of the paperwork?

What do you think the Bothans were doing when they were not stealing Death intel?

 

[cooleddie74]

They got that one Y-Wing pilot who survived the first Death Star to run all those special errands and tasks. Luke and Han wanted to hog all the attention and get all the medals so they kept the other guy quiet by keeping him busy.

 

[Ithekro]

He and Wedge got their awards seperately.

Wedge, in later novels, when he's showing the flag, so to speak, has two Death Stars painted on his X-wing, as a survivor of both of them. One has a special dot in it for the his half of the kill of the Death Star II share with Lando and crew of the Millenium Falcon. The Y-wing pilot might also have that, but wouldn't have the dot unless he was part of the Falcon's crew that day (unless it was a dot for being on the run on the inside of the Death Star, but I seem to recall he was piloting a B-wing that day and no B-wings went in. Instead he'd have at least one Star Destroyer kill for that day).

 

[Corran Horn]

He and Wedge got their awards seperately.

Wedge, in later novels, when he's showing the flag, so to speak, has two Death Stars painted on his X-wing, as a survivor of both of them. One has a special dot in it for the his half of the kill of the Death Star II share with Lando and crew of the Millenium Falcon. The Y-wing pilot might also have that, but wouldn't have the dot unless he was part of the Falcon's crew that day (unless it was a dot for being on the run on the inside of the Death Star, but I seem to recall he was piloting a B-wing that day and no B-wings went in. Instead he'd have at least one Star Destroyer kill for that day).

As I recall, and I could be wrong, the dot was for being a survivor of the trench run.

 

[cooleddie74]

Have you guys seen the new "spoiler" that just got posted on Facebook via another website? Take it with a grain of salt the size of a Death Star until officially confirmed or denied by the folks in charge of the new movie, but

Spoiler: who Max von Sydow may actually be playing and why his character may be partially-reconstructed with cybernetic implants

they say he's an elderly Boba Fett who required surgery to repair the extensive damage caused by the Sarlacc more than thirty years earlier. So....yeah. True or a big pile of eopie poop, it's getting a lot of fans talking.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Swallowed by a sarlacc and he still lives? Boba Fett: the new Chuck Norris.

 

[cooleddie74]

Naturally, a lot of fans are saying one variant or another of: "but he doesn't look or sound anything like the previous actors who played him and his father. It makes no sense." True, and a fair observation unless one factors extensive reconstructive surgery into the equation along with more than thirty years of aging by a person who was probably genetically programmed to age and mature faster than a normal human to begin with.

Again, this rumor could be nothing more than the waste in the Death Star's trash compactor and thus not worth taking too seriously, but if there's any truth whatsoever to it then it's not as if J.J. Abrams hasn't made these kinds of continuity-bending casting decisions before and then had somebody else come up with a proper explanation.

 

[Ithekro]

We still don't know who Max von Sydow is playing in this movie. Other than it isn't Ming the Merciless. It would be an interesting idea. Especially with his connection to the Solo family.

 

[HIjol]

You all have got to see this...way cool!


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/06/w...ticle_organicsidebar_expansion&iref=obnetwork

 

[Tosk]

Okay, that is seriously impressi-cool.

 

[davejames]

I love the idea of an older Boba being in the movie.... but I still have a hard time believing that he would look even more old and frail than Harrison Ford does 30 years later.