News Star Wars Andor anticipation thread

[Reverend]

I'm trying to think of any direct racism towards Thrawn in the new Thrawn novels. I don't remember any, but I only read the books once.

I remember there were teachers and students at the officer academy who looked down on him because he was an outsider, not part of any important family, classism and such. Some also disliked how clever he was. Plus privileged because the Emperor got him in.

There was prejudice from other officer cadets, but it wasn't species based but class based (or rather perceived class.) Basically to a certain type of person from the Core or Mid-Rim, anyone from the Outer Rim, or Wildspace is thought of as an unsophisticated, uneducated hick at best, or an uncivilized savage at worst. An attitude that seems to have been compounded by the Clone Wars since most of the loyalist worlds were core worlds, and most of the Separatist systems were in the Outer Rim.

That also applied to Vanto and he was human, though as even he points out, Core Worlds are mostly rich, human dominated worlds, while even the wealthier worlds in the Outer Rim and non-human dominated. So in the end, more non-humans than humans do end up on the receiving end of prejudice, even if said prejudice isn't BECAUSE they're non-human. It's a whole correlation vs causation thing.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Are they human supremacists?

Take it from the source of the franchise--the OT: in Star Wars, the Death Star's detention center commander referred to Chewbacca with a stretched-out "thing" slur, as if Wookies were some filthy animal class with no presence in the human Empire. In TESB, note Piett's disdainful gaze at Bossk; while he believed bounty hunters were "scum", he focused that look at Bossk, which built off of the behavior of the detention center commander's attitude from the original film. That, and by the time of the OT, no non-human species work for / live among the Empire at all. That strongly suggests the Imperials are human supremacists, playing into the kind of imagery and martial behavior Lucas borrowed from Nazis.

 

[The Wormhole]

The OT displays a lot of casual racism towards Wookiees, even from the heroes. Leia dismissively refers to Chewie as a "walking carpet" and doesn't give him a medal at the ceremony.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Rogue One will be getting a theatrical IMAX re-release to promote Andor.

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1235038-rogue-one-imax-screenings-andor-series

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

The OT displays a lot of casual racism towards Wookiees, even from the heroes. Leia dismissively refers to Chewie as a "walking carpet" and doesn't give him a medal at the ceremony.

Yes--and of all of the Rebellion characters, she's consistently disrespectful to Wookies, such as her "I'd rather kiss a Wookie" retort to Han in TESB. Of all of the beings she views as disgusting where kissing is concerned, she picks a non-human species, and one with a member she's supposed to be close to.

 

[Tuskin38]

Chewie found it funny.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Chewie found it funny.

The "I'd rather kiss a Wookie" line was delivered in one of the Echo Base halls, and Chewbacca was not present.

 

[Tuskin38]

Oh right I was thinking of something else.

 

[Tuskin38]

Andor actor Denise Gough on how her character arc addresses gender politics in the age of Palpatine
https://www.gamesradar.com/andor-denise-gough-female-villain-gender-politics/

 

[Tuskin38]

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[fireproof78]

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Stellan is a treasure. These two play off each other so well.

 

[Crewman6]

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Looks fantastic. This one single minute has more good writing than the entirety of Jon Favreau's shows put together.

 

[kirk55555]

I'm still not convinced that this show needs to exist, but that clip was pretty good. I can't see the show going below "ok" for me, but I also can't see it being something special. Its the most "This will probably be decent" feeling I've ever had toward any of the D+ shows.

 

[fireproof78]

That's all a show should be.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm still not convinced that this show needs to exist

No shows need to exist. They just do.

 

[Ithekro]

That the Empire struggles with infiltration in their bases for at least two decades and perhaps three given events in The Mandalorian, they have some overconfidence issues and just the fact that they treat their troops worse than clones. Or perhaps like clones would have been treated had they not been assigned to the Jedi. Just faceless numbers for a task in a uniform.

And to this the ability to essentially bully your way into a base if you look like an officer or have a plausible task to do that might anger the target's supervisor if delayed.

 

[Set Harth]

I feel like this show's gonna be a little light on things like mystical Force planets.

 

[Crewman6]

No shows need to exist. They just do.

Actually, scientists have recently concluded that if Green Acres didn't exist, the universe would have collapsed on itself in February of 1967.

But, yeah, beyond that, no shows actually "need" to exist.

 

[cooleddie74]

I feel like this show's gonna be a little light on things like mystical Force planets.

Good. Sometimes I want the "Wars" in the franchise title to focus more on the politics and conflict of the given era and steer away from Jedi and Force users.

 

[Jedi Marso]

Good. Sometimes I want the "Wars" in the franchise title to focus more on the politics and conflict of the given era and steer away from Jedi and Force users.

Agree. As much as I love the Jedi and lightsaber fights, some of the best SW stuff out there has nothing to do at all with the Jedi or the Force.