Star Trek-TMP Directors Edition NOT on Blu-Ray!!!

[David cgc]

I thought that they could branch on Blu-Ray and provide all three versions of the film on a single disk?

They can. Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Blade Runner both branch three versions on one disc. However, in the case of the Director's Edition, Paramount is either a.) unwilling to shell out the money needed to uprez the DE effects to 1080p resolution for Blu-Ray.... or b.) is waiting to double-dip later on.

Now what Paramount can do is branch the theatrical version and the TV version on one disc but they'll probably put the extended TV scenes in a separate section.

Well, not entirely. Seamless branching relies on the movie being pretty much identical from one version to the next. If there isn't a lot of overlap, it isn't worth doing. So while they could do seamless branching for the theatrical version and the extended version (since the only difference is the presence or absence of those few scenes), it'd be much more difficult to do so with the DE, considering the number of trims, rearranged shots, new visual effects and, most challengingly, the almost entirely new audio mix. There's just nothing left that's 100% identical to the theatrical version. So they could do what Blade Runner did, with the DE being on one disc and the two prior versions being branched on another, but they couldn't put all three on the same disc.

I'm interested to find out what kind of features the disc will have. Will they recycle the same self-congratulatory featurettes from the original DVD or will we get something a little better?

As I recall, the reason the DE was delayed from the beginning of 2001 to the end of 2001 was that all the special features had to be redone, since they weren't masturbatory enough and needed to be whitewashed. So I doubt it.

 

[ScottDS]

So they could do what Blade Runner did, with the DE being on one disc and the two prior versions being branched on another, but they couldn't put all three on the same disc.

That's what I was hoping they would do. And you're right - I didn't read the original poster's message in its entirety. They couldn't branch all three on one disc.

 

[CoveTom]

The original version of TMP had much better Red Alert klaxons than what they stuck in The Director's Edition.

Agreed. The director's edition seemed to go the route of the more subdued klaxons of the DS9/Voyager/Enterprise era. I much prefer the more in-your-face approach of TOS/TMP/TNG.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I'm interested to find out what kind of features the disc will have. Will they recycle the same self-congratulatory featurettes

Certainly, there was a reunion group interview filmed with David Gerrold and numerous fan extras from the rec deck scene. It will be part of the new bonus features material.

 

[destructive]

thank you paramount, I've never liked the director's edition

 

[Tallguy]

That's great news and awful news all at the same time. I like the DE, I just miss the original. My biggest disappointment was the sound overhaul. It needed one, just not the one it got.

Did they ever do the DE FX in HD? My gathering was that they did not.

 

[cardinal biggles]

No, they didn't, otherwise we'd probably either be getting just the DE or a set with both versions.

 

[Borjis]

"Malfunction. Malfunction. Malfunction."

"Emergency alert -- negative control at helm. Emergency alert -- negative control at helm."


I'm so glad to have the original sounds back.

There was something downright scary/serious about the original enterprise voice.

Love that!

 

[Kronos]

"Malfunction. Malfunction. Malfunction."

"Emergency alert -- negative control at helm. Emergency alert -- negative control at helm."


I'm so glad to have the original sounds back.

There was something downright scary/serious about the original enterprise voice.

Love that!

That voice says "crap is happening! pay attention!" the voice in the DE sounds like "there is no parking in the white zone"

 

[Indysolo]

Don't start up with your "White Zone" sh*t again!

Neil

 

[Tallguy]

Don't start up with your "White Zone" sh*t again!

Neil

Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Uh...Guys? What?

 

[Maurice]

^^^They're quoting the "white zone" announcements from the opening of "Airplane!"

 

[Kronos]

Shame on anyone who doesn't know the white zone/red zone discussion.

 

[Maurice]

Shame on anyone who doesn't know the white zone/red zone discussion.

Yes, but can you tell me where Airplane got it from?

 

[Kronos]

Shame on anyone who doesn't know the white zone/red zone discussion.

Yes, but can you tell me where Airplane got it from?

Was it Zero Hour like 90% of the rest of the movie?

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^^^They're quoting the "white zone" announcements from the opening of "Airplane!"

Thanks. ^^

 

[JDF]

I'm not as harsh on the DE as TGT is, and never was. But, I do still prefer the theatrical cut.

In fact, I pulled out the old laserdisc of the widescreen theatrical cut recently when I was able to finally hook up the ol' Pioneer LD player to the Sony LCD (the TV cabinet we bought 2 years ago was too shallow and it was only a couple weeks back that I finally got around to cutting out the back to fit the monster in).

I don't have a Blu-ray player yet, but intend on getting one by Christmas.

I'm glad they are giving us the TC first in HD. The LD is really fuzzy. And, as time has gone by, there are only a few edits in the DE that I still like -mainly the additional (and relevant) dialog. What they cut, I was never happy about. The new sound effects, I didn't like a lot of. The new visual effects I could take or leave. The new "animated" V'ger bridge though always bothered me and never bought the idea of trying to copy the look of "traditional cel animation" by double-framing it. Truth is, for a movie like this, it never would have been traditional double-frame cel animation. They would have single-frame shot it like even Disney has always done with key scenes in their own theatrical animations.

 

[Maurice]

Shame on anyone who doesn't know the white zone/red zone discussion.

Yes, but can you tell me where Airplane got it from?

Was it Zero Hour like 90% of the rest of the movie?

Nope. I believe it's taken from the novel Airport by Arthur Hailey.

The new "animated" V'ger bridge though always bothered me and never bought the idea of trying to copy the look of "traditional cel animation" by double-framing it. Truth is, for a movie like this, it never would have been traditional double-frame cel animation. They would have single-frame shot it like even Disney has always done with key scenes in their own theatrical animations.

You're correct about that. The correct term is "shooting on twos", and that's for animated films, not for animated effects overlain on live action which is by definition shot on ones.

 

[GodThingFormerly]

The new "animated" V'ger bridge though always bothered me and never bought the idea of trying to copy the look of "traditional cel animation" by double-framing it. Truth is, for a movie like this, it never would have been traditional double-frame cel animation. They would have single-frame shot it like even Disney has always done with key scenes in their own theatrical animations.

Hiya, JDF. Robert Swarthe did an absolutely masterful animation job for ST:TMP's wormhole live-action and V'ger transcendence sequences (see Cinefex #11 for details). That Swarthe would have suddenly got lazy for the Voyager 6 Island "bridge building" effects - as that bloated hack Dochterman asserted - is a rather disgusting professional insult to a brilliant artist.

TGT