Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, May 17, 2022.

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  1. 10 - Excellent!

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  10. 1 - I give it a number one, and not the good Number One.

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  1. Jack Wolfe

    Jack Wolfe Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    I'm not having any trouble with M'Benga's dialogue, but I've been fortunate enough to be exposed to a wide variety of international accents most of my life. If anything is going to trip me up, it's usually certain American accents. :shrug:
     
  2. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It's a West African accent it seems but I don't have too much trouble following what his character says.
     
  3. Tuskin38

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    They're just following TOS, the stardates in that were also all over the place. Discovery seasons 1 and 2 did the same, and once they got to the 32nd century they started using the TNG stardate system, and I believe they have been consistent.
     
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  4. Shikarnov

    Shikarnov Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    I gave it an 8.

    I thought the episode was very good, but I deducted a point because they had a medical doctor jury rig the transporter in such as way that Scotty -- one of the best engineers of the 23rd Century -- had to invent 50 years later during a crisis and at incredible risk. I also deducted a point for the whole "Flagship of the Federation" nonsense. In this era, the Enterprise was nothing special and hadn't gained any greater notoriety than the other Constitution Class ships.
     
  5. Tuskin38

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    It wasn't the same way at all.
    Scotty had to set his into a diagnostic loop so he and his friend wouldn't rematerialize. While M'Benga is just keeping her in the buffer then rematerializing her every once and a while to keep her pattern from degrading.

    M'Benga didn't jury rig anything.
     
  6. 1001001

    1001001 Workin' Them Angels Moderator

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    I gave that one a 7. The people walking into the storm and technobabble and presto! They're Ion Ghosts (or whatever). Meh.

    I think the plotline with the doctor and his daughter could be very interesting.

    Number One being Illyrian...also meh.

    Hemmer is obviously going to be the break out character. He's awesome. :lol:
     
  7. Timofnine

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    Maybe there is a secret code in the stardate numbers that someone can try to work out? Has anybody got a list of every stardate ever from Star Trek which we can run through some type of decryption algorithm and decode? I’d happily help to write the algorithm myself if no one else can. If the production staff were not clever enough to create a working star date system, maybe they were clever enough to make a secret message for Star Trek fans using the dates instead?

    Anyway, now that we have actually made a working
    stardate and general dating system, please can we also move October so that it becomes the eighth month of the year and also rename all of the months after Romulan gods instead of Roman ones? It should all work like clock work then? We might need to change our planets orbit slightly and mess about with it’s rotation a little bit though. :D
     
  8. Belz...

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    I don't think contradicting your head canon is a flaw, though.

    I just gave you the perfect system. Stop looking! ;)
     
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  9. Jack Wolfe

    Jack Wolfe Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    I'll run it through my secret decoder ring and have it sorted in a jiff. :D
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  10. DaveyNY

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    Kirk never said he was Born in Iowa, the best we ever got was him telling Dr. Gillian Taylor he was FROM Iowa.
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    (and I just realized my 21st anniversary around here passed a few days ago) :biggrin:
     
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  11. Tuskin38

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    According to... well I don't remember which writer, the attack on the ship put her into early labour. If it wasn't for Nero, they would have been at Earth for his birth.

    There was a Warp 3 test ship. Only mentioned, not seen.
    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/NX-Delta
     
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  12. Photoman15

    Photoman15 Commodore Commodore

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    Unless she's a time traveler, that would be almost impossible. In the late 20th Century, Khan and his gang were put into suspended animation and launched into deep space. Unless they had some vacation time, they are not re-awoken until the Enterprise, commanded by James Kirk runs into them. And that takes place 10-12 years AFTER SNW.

    Agree with the transporter jury rig. But the Enterprise WAS the flagship. It didn't become that after Kirk took over.
     
  13. TheMadCloner

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    I thought it was a interesting episode with layers of grey in it. Lots of threads left unresolved, proving you can do a episodic-based season but still have viewer investment in both character and plot arcs.

    Very nice parallel between Pike willing to give Una the benefit of the doubt and Una paying it forward with M’Benga. I think when she’s asking if Pike would do the same thing if she wasn’t one of the good ones, she’s also asking herself if she would do the same thing if M’Benga wasn’t the CMO of the Enterprise.
     
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  14. Tosk

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    We're twenty-five pages in...is no one going to talk about how this episode was directed by Kira Nerys' mother?!

    Although Leslie Hope will always be Susan from the movie Men at Work for me. :)
     
  15. cooleddie74

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    I noticed but couldn't remember who Hope played. :lol:
     
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  16. gvn2fly

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    I give this a 7. Good episode that didn't quite land for me the same as the first two did. I thought the resolution to the disease was really quick and convenient, but that's nothing new to Trek so not a huge deal. That's probably really my only nitpick.
     
  17. CorporalCaptain

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    Exactly.
     
  18. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    Humans don't need gene modification for ego inflation, some of us come by it naturally. The Trek stance on gene modification is understandable in the 1960s, so close to WW2 but does not stand up to real world scrutiny. The Nazis and other megalomaniac did not need genetic engineering for their warped, evil philosophy and actions. I hope Discovery Trek gets rid of the anti-genetic manipulation stance, it is foolish
     
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  19. Tuskin38

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    TOS Space Seed says Khan and his ilk were the result of selective breeding, no genetic editing/modification, but later series seem to imply they specifically altered.
     
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  20. cooleddie74

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    Kirk's exact words in the episode were "a product of controlled genetics," which can easily mean either. Selective breeding or gene manipulation. So it still covers all the bases.
     
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