Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”

[1001001]

We watched this tonight.

I thought it was pretty good.

I think the way Hunter inhabits the Captain (Chancellor) might take some getting used to. But I adore Pelia, so that shouldn’t be too much of an issue.

The landing sequence in SF was kinda hokey and the song was jarring.

Other than that, we liked it. The Doctor is good, and I’m in love with Lura Thok. She’s awesome. And Holo-Tootie is adorable.

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[Tuskin38]

What was kinda weird, the captain said auxiliary deflector control was outside engineering… but Caleb was on the outer rim of the saucer.

 

[cooleddie74]

Holo Tootie might be my new name for her.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think the way Hunter inhabits the Captain (Chancellor) might take some getting used to. But I adore Pelia, so that shouldn’t be too much of an issue.

I've been struck by how Holly Hunter literally commands every scene she's in, despite being relatively tiny compared to her scene partners.

 

[Farscape One]

Yeah, that version of the song was terrible.

 

[1001001]

I've been struck by how Holly Hunter literally commands every scene she's in, despite being relatively tiny compared to her scene partners.

To me, she has a fair amount of Pelia in her. With that kind of age perhaps one develops a certain bemused comfort (see the way she sits in her chair).

I’m making an early bet that Lura Thok will be great.

 

[Kraig]

To me, she has a fair amount of Pelia in her. With that kind of age perhaps one develops a certain bemused comfort (see the way she sits in her chair).

I’m making an early bet that Lura Thok will be great.

The way the captain's chair behaves, it must have been designed by Ford. When I get in the driver seat, after my pickup truck hasn't been driven in over a week, the truck seat tries to move me into the steering wheel. I have to press one of the seat memories to get it to go back to normal.

 

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[Guy Gardener]

I doubt she's super strong, but she's probably a hundred times more invulnerable than a human.

 

[Greg Cox]

Coming late to the party, kinda: I really enjoyed this. And for the record:

1) Love the way Ake sprawls all the captain's chair. That was fun and fresh and new.

2) I quite liked Season 2 with PICARD, particularly the stuff with the Borg Queen and Jurati. (Plus, they finally remembered Gary Seven and his mysterious sponsors!)

3) On the Athena front, I assume the shame is name is named after the mythological Athena, not whatever ancient astronaut inspired here. Regardless of the name's extraterrestrial origins, the character of Athena is part of Earth's history, literature, and culture, and has long symbolized wisdom, making it an apt name for a educational vessel.

4) The Cheronian: The TOS ep only really established that there was no one left alive on their homeworld and that their civilization destroyed itself. Doesn't mean there were no Cheronians travelers, exiles, or refuges who left sometime before the final apocalyptic war. (I mean, Vulcan was destroyed in the Kelvin movies, but that doesn't mean that the Vulcans went extinct.) So let's assume that the Cheronians were an endangered species in Kirk's time, but may have rebounded by the 32nd century . . . .

 

[camdudetenger2018]

what a episode 1 lol and i was right about starfleet academy

there was alot of lol lol scenes

and they mention alot about the infamous event called the burn which i think the peeps on this fourms mentioned that it happened in star trek discovery season 3

 

[Tosk]

I wonder how often they're gonna have to make excuses for why Discovery can't come to help.

 

[I am not Spock]

Holly Hunter is amazing in this, and i'm glad to see most people agree. She commands every scene she's in . I love how she sprawls out on the captains chair like a teenager, it's something a bit different in Trek. She's been alive a long time, she has learned to let go, and just be herself without giving a damn what people think

 

[Kraig]

Holly Hunter is amazing in this, and i'm glad to see most people agree. She commands every scene she's in . I love how she sprawls out on the captains chair like a teenager, it's something a bit different in Trek. She's been alive a long time, she has learned to let go, and just be herself without giving a damn what people think

I also like her choice of footwear when she meets with Fleet Admiral Vance and the Head of the War College.

Spoiler: From the episode Beta Test

 

[tenmei]

What was kinda weird, the captain said auxiliary deflector control was outside engineering… but Caleb was on the outer rim of the saucer.

Not too far fron where the wings are coupled to the saucer, admittedly. It would have made less sense for it to be in the neck.

 

[Fateor]

I wonder how often they're gonna have to make excuses for why Discovery can't come to help.

A better question is why they've seemingly forgotten about the sparkly new Pathfinder drive that all Federation ships should now have.

 

[tenmei]

Something that occured to me, when Braka attacks the Athena, the cadets are instructed to their dorms and shelter in place, but the cadets aren't given their dorm assignments until the next episode, which begins at least a full day later (Ep 1 ends at night), and long enough that Ake is able to campaign for the reception.

 

[Michael]

It’s a shame Colbert is just doing a voice. He should be playing the President.

I have to say, I’m surprised how much Colbert’s voice was in those first two episodes. I wonder if they made an effort to heavily feature him early in the season to capitalize on his fame, and that he will be heard less and less the further we go. We’ll see, I guess. Some gags he's reading sounded like ad-libs to me, so I’m wondering if they just let him riff in a recording booth somewhere and randomly placed the best recordings whenever we have an establishing shot of an Academy location.

Yeah, that version of the song was terrible.

I admit I’m kinda surprised by just how divisive the use of the Rufus Wainwright cover in the episode is. Some seem to love it, while others either didn’t like the use of any song in that sequence or just think they should have used the original. Personally I thought it was a neat idea and I think it works much better with the cover version, which feels more monumental, serious and triumphant, which fits the pivotal and historical moment of Starfleet Academy returning to Earth/San Francisco after a century. I love the original Scott McKenzie classic, and it is a very celebratory tune, but it lacks the grandeur they were going for.

I’ve seen people say a song that’s a counterculture hymn is an odd choice for celebrating what’s basically a military establishment institution, and I get that argument. But I think at the same time it fits the ideals of what Starfleet Academy is supposed to stand for: A melting pot of young people from disparate backgrounds and walks of life, coming together out of a shared value for ethical responsibility, cooperation across differences and personal growth over competition, wealth or domination.

Something that occured to me, when Braka attacks the Athena, the cadets are instructed to their dorms and shelter in place, but the cadets aren't given their dorm assignments until the next episode, which begins at least a full day later (Ep 1 ends at night), and long enough that Ake is able to campaign for the reception.

Agreed. There is some disconnect between episode one and two. “Beta Test” begins by showing how they have their first course and only then do they get their quarters assigned. Are we meant to believe they didn’t get sleeping accommodations between the end of “Kids These Days” and their first time having a course?

 

[JoeZhang]

I thought this was terrible woke nonsense and the end of Trek as we know it.

Only joking - I thought it was great! Pacy, good character arcs and Holly Hunter just owns every scene she is in.

Look forward to episode 2 and onwards.

 

[Eddie Roth]

Given the problems I had with DSC and its YA tone, as well as the 32nd century setting, AND the fact that I hate(!) the Pelia character and Ake was announced as being somewhat like her, species- and behavior-wise, I was dreading this new show. But at least the premiere was a super-pleasant surprise. I found it exciting and fun and in the right ST spirit.

Then I watched episode two and now my doubts are back.

However, I still hold out hope that on balance, this will be a fun, if slight, Trek. The Jem'Hadar officer is a pure delight; if they feature her a lot, I'm gonna love this. Many characters indeed have a potentially interesting set-up (the pacifist Klingon, the photonic cadet, and some others), even if the dynamics so far seem a rather trite collection of teen drama tropes.