Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Gen

[Bones1864]

Star Trek Series 6 idea ; Just set the show ith all new characters 100 year after episode 1 of the Next Generation. With CGI and technology the way it is now it would be a revolution over the Next Gen of 1987 that that show was a revolution over the Original Series.
It would open up a whole new Broad canvas of stories. The Enterprise-E would be in the Fleet museum and the new Enterprise-G would be the new ship. Parts of the Delta and Gamma Quadrants could be opened up so a few of the races of DS9 and Voyager could be developed further for story ideas. Seeing a more advanced and more mechanical Enterprise that would be a mix of some of the style of the Galaxy and Sovereign class starships would be Cool.
Hearing a reference or two to Admiral Picard or Admiral Riker would work. The aftermath of the Dominion War could be seen. Perhaps the aftermath of al all out war with the Borg could be referenced. That would have to happen before the Delta Quadrant could be further explored.
Seeing the Federation more developed and changed would be food for thought as the new " Universe Class" Starship Enterprise-G explored Outer Space.

 

[Zeppster]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

I think it should be in the future but not 100 years. Say 50 years. You can still have cameos with some of the characters from the other series to bring in more fans. The cameo of McCoy in the first episode probably helped TNG. Cameos of Picard and Quark in the other series probably helped those early on.

But I agree it needs to take place in the future with a new crew.

 

[USS Excelsior]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Yes. And like with the other 2 generations introduce new technology ideas to capture our attention and inspire people to develop them like the other 2 generations did.

There could also be android and holographic officers, sub-space transporters, intraship transporters instead of turbolifts, and stuff.

 

[JayTheTrekkie]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Would it be better if they finish off the 24th Century (it would take the 6th and 7th and part of the 8th series to finish the rest of the 24th century)? That way we can see the new uniforms that would come around 2395 (the new communicator comes in 2390).

 

[cardinal biggles]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Who cares? They didn't complete the 23rd century, not to mention that they left the first six decades of the 24th largely empty.

I'm more interested in them getting back to telling intelligent stories with well-written characters. I couldn't give two craps whether they're wearing the 2395 uniforms with the 2390 communicators on a ship full of android officers and subspace transporters. If the stories and characters suck, the time period, costumes, and technobabble devices won't save this new show from the chopping block.

 

[betz]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

What about trans-warp, that opens up all new dimensions of pan-galactical traveling?

 

[Professor Zoom]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

All the technology in the world won't help a badly written script.

Series 6 needs to have bold creators. It doesn't matter WHEN it is set, as long as it has great characters with great stories. All the rest are trappings.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Paramount with all of its resources should hire a number of the creators of current and recently worthwhile space shows - Ron Moore, some of the folks from "Farscape," Joss Whedon or some of his fellow writers on "Firefly" - and turn them loose to create a new space opera.

The less like previous "Star Trek," the better. If the studio wants to slap the "Star Trek" label on it in order to get folks to tune in, well hey - they own the title. But let's have none of this "alpha/beta/delta/gamma quadrant" or technobabble or cardboard aliens or half-this-critter/half-that-critter or people running around in uniforms pretending they're in the Navy or any of that stuff. Get it out of the Trekverse and give it a chance to prosper.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I would actually love a 25th-Century series, but rather than just have a ship wandering aimlessly around the Galaxy, I'd establish the setting in a particular region of space and deal with a set number (preferrably a small number) of worlds and alien species. I'd rather it "Keep It Simple, Stupid" and avoid as much fanboy stuff and references to past events as possible.

You don't really need a whole lot of uber-tech. Yes, you can make it apparent it's more powerful than that of the 24th-Century, but I think the less it's used or the less detail it's given the better. I actually think it should take a Star Wars approach--it's there, it looks pretty, we don't need to know how it works. Personally (aside from warp drive), I think all the tech you really need are sensors, transporters, phasers, and torpedoes myself, but that's just me.

Perhaps it's also not necessary to have a series with 7 or 9 regular characters when only 3 or 5 will really do. Some characters are more defined by their shipboard positions than anything else and could be relegated to reoccurring characters not necessary in every episode.

And none of this "perfect Humans" stuff. You can say that kind of arrogance was a 24th-Century thing typical of Picard's era, but 100 years later things are a bit more real. Characters don't have to be at each others' throats with knives, but they still do have strong disagreements that aren't so quickly resolved.

But more important than anything else, Series 6 must bring back women in miniskirt uniforms...

 

[LiChiu]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

If they were to make a series set after TNG era then I hope the ship has a very diverse crew like in the Titan novels.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Why is the argument for doing a series farther into the future always include shiny new tech? Is it really that necessary? Same thing with the whole moving forward bit. Does it matter if it's backwards or forwards? We need something different. Bold new approaches. Tech and movie forward and backward is just window dressing.

 

[Deks]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Technology has to progress and it has to be evident.
Otherwise it wouldn't be Trek.
I would appreciate explanations every now and then on how the said technology works and some consistency in it's use throughout the show for example.

A diverse crew would be nice though.
Have about 300 crew members each 2 being from every member of the federation (or more if new members were admitted over time).

Also ... the new series could use a homosexual main character.
Doesn't have to be focus of the story and what not, but also could be done so the character gets some romantic interests that are actually shown.

No more religious stupidity.
Trek humans in the future are atheist.
Introduction of religion somewhat ruined the show for me.
As for the 'perfect humans'.
From my perspective, they were not 'perfect' in TNG or later Trek shows.
They were however more in control over their emotions (apart from numerous current day humans) and actually behaved in a mature fashion.

Just because a large majority of people today act in a barbaric fashion, doesn't mean that EVERYONE do.
Some of us actually are capable of behaving in a civilized manner even under pressure, and to see that kind of behavior to be predominant in the 24th century is nice.

Arrogant notions on the other hand such as 'we are better than you' have no place in the Federation.
Picard and other lead captains did know that just because they perceive something as 'moral' or 'right' doesn't necessarily have to be correct.
Have them question their own morals and what they were taught to be 'right' or 'wrong'.

Less predictive show.
If a main character is in danger of dying, don't make him prevail simply because he is a lead.
Writers should be good killing off their main characters if necessary.
The Feds aren't supposed to win on every occasion.

Warp drive should be supplemented by Quantum Slipstream drive (version 2 that enables the ship to traverse 10 000 LY's in 1 minute).

The Borg could make a comeback even deadlier than before, only what Voyager established should be taken into consideration and level the playing field a bit.
Show humans can adapt just as the Borg can.

A clear shift in technology should occur though.
The Feds are supposed to be progressing at a faster pace, so make them stick to the established fact they are technologically superior to other Alpha quadrant races.

Have the fleet numbers range in thousands (around 10 to 15 000 perhaps ?) and the main ship not the only one present in the sector at any given time.
We should see other ships in the fleet with Earth not being the center of attention.

 

[regemet]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

I like the idea of setting the series 100 yr,s in the future but I wuld prefare a larger ship , i also agree with slipstream drive and a more diverse crew with a few gays aswell as guest ships also in tbe area and the improved tech .But I would like a more soap operatic series with a continuing storyline with every action causeing a reaction later in the series

 

[Mr J]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

The problem with the age old argument about tech v.s. era is that at the end of the day the fictional 'level' of the tech is fairly meaningless in the Star Trek universe. To the viewer, dramatically it makes no difference if the ship has to push the engines to warp 5 to travel 5 light years in 6 minutes than if the ship has to push the transverse warp time engines to factor 16 to travel 7000 light years in 6 minutes. It also doesn't really matter if the ship is a fully-armed uber battleship or a lightly freighter, because the enemy will always be written as having the upper hand when the writers need them to.

IMO, TNG did no succeed because it was set in a different century. Indeed, the common elements were pretty much identical to TOS - super fast engines, laser guns and teleporters. Things having to happen in a fixed amount of time to create tension. All they really changed were the numbers and the speeds of the gizmos and then used them in pretty much the same way. What set it apart from TOS however was that tonally, visually (to an extent, at least) and the type of stories told were different to TOS but still retained the recognizable elements of Star Trek.

To that end, when it is set is fairly redundant IMO. Any era would work equally well as long as it has good writers willing to do something new with the franchise. 25th century might be interesting from a fan perspective in terms of the continuity and moving forward, but it could also theoretically serve as a nice blank canvas time period for them to create something very different with the franchise while appeasing the fans. Or, they could just overwrite the continuity and set it in the 24th century with Kirk fighting the Borg who have allied themselves with Spock the evil Vulcan. Either way, good writing is more the key than the basic concept IMO.

 

[brian lackey]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Deks said:
Technology has to progress and it has to be evident.
Otherwise it wouldn't be Trek.
I would appreciate explanations every now and then on how the said technology works and some consistency in it's use throughout the show for example.

A diverse crew would be nice though.
Have about 300 crew members each 2 being from every member of the federation (or more if new members were admitted over time).

Also ... the new series could use a homosexual main character.
Doesn't have to be focus of the story and what not, but also could be done so the character gets some romantic interests that are actually shown.

No more religious stupidity.
Trek humans in the future are atheist.
Introduction of religion somewhat ruined the show for me.
As for the 'perfect humans'.
From my perspective, they were not 'perfect' in TNG or later Trek shows.
They were however more in control over their emotions (apart from numerous current day humans) and actually behaved in a mature fashion.

Just because a large majority of people today act in a barbaric fashion, doesn't mean that EVERYONE do.
Some of us actually are capable of behaving in a civilized manner even under pressure, and to see that kind of behavior to be predominant in the 24th century is nice.

Arrogant notions on the other hand such as 'we are better than you' have no place in the Federation.
Picard and other lead captains did know that just because they perceive something as 'moral' or 'right' doesn't necessarily have to be correct.
Have them question their own morals and what they were taught to be 'right' or 'wrong'.

Less predictive show.
If a main character is in danger of dying, don't make him prevail simply because he is a lead.
Writers should be good killing off their main characters if necessary.
The Feds aren't supposed to win on every occasion.

Warp drive should be supplemented by Quantum Slipstream drive (version 2 that enables the ship to traverse 10 000 LY's in 1 minute).

The Borg could make a comeback even deadlier than before, only what Voyager established should be taken into consideration and level the playing field a bit.
Show humans can adapt just as the Borg can.

A clear shift in technology should occur though.
The Feds are supposed to be progressing at a faster pace, so make them stick to the established fact they are technologically superior to other Alpha quadrant races.

Have the fleet numbers range in thousands (around 10 to 15 000 perhaps ?) and the main ship not the only one present in the sector at any given time.
We should see other ships in the fleet with Earth not being the center of attention.

Hey Deks, why not use that idea for Titan series(if CBS is interested)? Oh, and just because Someone who is atheist does not mean that there superior to those who choose to worship a deity(now I sound like Kevin W.).

 

[blockaderunner]

Bones1864 said:
Star Trek Series 6 idea ; Just set the show ith all new characters 100 year after episode 1 of the Next Generation. With CGI and technology the way it is now it would be a revolution over the Next Gen of 1987 that that show was a revolution over the Original Series.
It would open up a whole new Broad canvas of stories. The Enterprise-E would be in the Fleet museum and the new Enterprise-G would be the new ship. Parts of the Delta and Gamma Quadrants could be opened up so a few of the races of DS9 and Voyager could be developed further for story ideas. Seeing a more advanced and more mechanical Enterprise that would be a mix of some of the style of the Galaxy and Sovereign class starships would be Cool.
Hearing a reference or two to Admiral Picard or Admiral Riker would work. The aftermath of the Dominion War could be seen. Perhaps the aftermath of al all out war with the Borg could be referenced. That would have to happen before the Delta Quadrant could be further explored.
Seeing the Federation more developed and changed would be food for thought as the new " Universe Class" Starship Enterprise-G explored Outer Space.

You're new here, aren't you?

 

[philbob]

i dunno that cartonn sounds pretty bold to me

 

[Deks]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

brian lackey

Well, I never said a person who is an atheist is superior to a religious one.

I merely said how Trek humans in the future were supposed to be atheists.

And funnily enough, as religion was more and more introduced into Trek, what I saw was also an introduction of individuals who were more trigger happy (basically people with lower self control ... which was written into existing characters as well).
Of course, such attributes don't necessarily come with religion ... but in my personal experience, a LOT of religious people are very short tempered.

In any case, I realize the writers wanted to portray humans as more 'real', but come on, far less temperamental humans in the 24th century is plausible.
It's plausible in real life after all.

 

[brian lackey]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Agreed! Hey Deks how does the Quantum Slipstream Drive supplement the warp drive and how long does Version 2 take to get to the Pegasus Galaxy? Will we also see the use of Borg technologies on Federation Starships under Voyager Technologies Project thanks to Seven of Nine?

 

[LiChiu]

Re: Star Trek Series 6 idea : set it 100 years after Next Ge

Considering there is no constant warp speed established in any show, why the need for slipstream or transwarp?