I loved Spock's almost impish lechery towards Yeoman Rand on the bridge at the end of the episode. I miss impish Spock! I hope Zachary Quinto incorporates aspects of Nimoy's performance in this episode into his big-screen portrayal of Mr. Ears.
Star Trek-RM: The Enemy Within… Grading/Discussion
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No explanation given. But anything from high winds (just look at those clouds!) to a previous adventure that left the shuttles unserviceable could be used as an excuse.
In the real world, while many of the people making the show already knew perfectly well that their heroes were supposed to have shuttlecraft at their disposal, the writer of "The Enemy Within" (Richard Matheson) need not have known that at the time of the writing.
All the transcripts I have seen so far have put it at 75 degrees (which is what I personally hear, too). Whether that is Farenheit or Celsius, it's still consistent with the visuals (no liquefication of air). But if it is Celsius, it will mean certain death for the landing party quite regardless of whether they get additional blankets or tents, or some charcoal to burn, or any of the other supplies people have suggested for prolonging their fates. Minus seventy-five Celsius would require fully functional spacesuits to be survivable for more than a few minutes. And we hear early on that the plateau will freeze to minus 120 ultimately - so even if that's Farenheit, everybody will be dead by midnight.
Timo Saloniemi
I live in the midwest, and last week our temperatures were hovering around -20 F. Add in the wind, and within ten minutes any exposed skin will be frozen. I don't care what Spock taught them in his "training program"...several hours in those Alfa 177 temps and our favorite helmsman would be a Sulucicle.
Blake said:
I used to love this ep,but i've changed now.
Now i think this is a nightmare anti religion ep.
Spock who is another anti religion issue(trying to deny himself positive emotions,love,having friends,joy,warm feelings for kirk and co etc) which is virtually gods 1st law,the whole point of religion.
Anyway Spock says to KirkA properly disicplined evil side(spirit) gives him his strength of character
.he's not the successfull captain without his evil side.
Kirk can't do his job because his evil side(spirits) has left him
Terrible anti religion,loving god episode.
Also this ep influenced me when i was an atheist i accepted my evil side because of the enemy within.Don't get me started on the vulcans.
The episode is remarkably perceptive...for thousands of years philosophers and scientists have tried to discover what makes some people act a certain way, and the nature of good and "evil" and we have some answers now in the 21st century, but I think its sensible to ignore the religious idea that the two are completely different or independent of each other...while some human beings have a predilection for acting against societal norms, the avg human being will react based on the situation given based on their personality, and this generally gives a 50-50 chance we'll react in a "positive" or "negative" way. Enemy Within seperates this into their very basic components...and tells is it works that way for a reason, because the two parts of our thought process can work together to modify our predilections and experiences to create a whole, functioning human being. Its not saying that the evil deserves to "live", only that our negative side can be useful in combination with the rest of us as long as that side does not rule us. Religion tells us we need God to do this, but all too often zealots and believers tend to be the worst of humanity, showing as that God isn't the way, but reason.
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Re: Star Trek-RM: The Enemy Within… Grading/Discussion
I like Shatner's performance in the episode except when evil Kirk is yelling "I want to live!" It was a bit too far on the hammy side compared to the rest of the performance.
I like Shatner's performance in the episode except when evil Kirk is yelling "I want to live!" It was a bit too far on the hammy side compared to the rest of the performance.
Re: Star Trek-RM: The Enemy Within… Grading/Discussion
Shatner might still have been thinking in terms of making Star Trek very theatrical, symbolic, exaggerated, metaphorical, you-name-it... The few episodes shot before this wouldn't convince him otherwise yet.
I wonder what his performance here would have looked like without the "evil" makeup...
Timo Saloniemi
Shatner might still have been thinking in terms of making Star Trek very theatrical, symbolic, exaggerated, metaphorical, you-name-it... The few episodes shot before this wouldn't convince him otherwise yet.
I wonder what his performance here would have looked like without the "evil" makeup...
Timo Saloniemi
I just assume that the Enterprise's shuttles weren't aboard...they'd been offloaded at a nearby starbase for repair and maintainance or something so the ship didn't have any to use when they got to Alfa 177.
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Then again,
1) They already had blankets. They were huddling under those.
2) Blankets won't help you survive -75 degrees Celsius (or, if the degrees are supposed to be Farenheit, then -120 which was due next). Entire log cabins beamed down won't help you survive -75 C. What the landing party needed were functioning spacesuits. And those the transporter could not provide.
If the ship had beamed down a log cabin earlier in the afternoon, the landing party might have survived a few minutes longer, in greater initial comfort. But remember that the crisis was an escalating one. Originally, our heroes thought that beaming up the landing party would be a matter of minutes. Then it dragged on to hours, as technological problems, good Kirk's indecisiveness, and finally the phaser shot that destroyed crucial circuits, kept stretching the timetable. So what our heroes did was always too little, too late.
Timo Saloniemi
1) They already had blankets. They were huddling under those.
2) Blankets won't help you survive -75 degrees Celsius (or, if the degrees are supposed to be Farenheit, then -120 which was due next). Entire log cabins beamed down won't help you survive -75 C. What the landing party needed were functioning spacesuits. And those the transporter could not provide.
If the ship had beamed down a log cabin earlier in the afternoon, the landing party might have survived a few minutes longer, in greater initial comfort. But remember that the crisis was an escalating one. Originally, our heroes thought that beaming up the landing party would be a matter of minutes. Then it dragged on to hours, as technological problems, good Kirk's indecisiveness, and finally the phaser shot that destroyed crucial circuits, kept stretching the timetable. So what our heroes did was always too little, too late.
Timo Saloniemi
I couldn't believe they missed the blank viewscreen gaffe. That took me by surprise. Somebody needs to let them know so they can fix that. It's waaay obvious.
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TELL me about it. That was just inexcusable. I love most of the Remastered effects and work done on them, but some weeks it just looks as if Okuda and his people just phoned it in and didn't care.
And in the Mirror Universe they'd all have little goatees near the tags.
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