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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread

Forgive me for bringing up race, but the idea of a black woman falling head-over-heels with a white man would strike a lot of people as racist ("Couldn't she get it on with Rutherford?")

Saying a POC can only be with another POC sounds racist or at the very least narrow minded to me.

And frankly I felt like there were hints of something between them in season 1.
 
Saying a POC can only be with another POC sounds racist or at the very least narrow minded to me.

And frankly I felt like there were hints of something between them in season 1.

Suffice to say, there were people who were ready and willing to overthrow the U.S. government a few weeks ago because of race.

It would fit Nickelodeon (Paw Patrol is positively fascist).

There hasn't been any mention of Mom -- Captain Freeman. You'd think she'd want her daughter carrying on with a rake like Okona?
 
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ETA: Campbell mentioned the show's female lead going "over the moon" for Okona, "much to the chagrin of the male lead".

Mariner and Boimler aren't/weren't lovers on LD -- so the quote wouldn't apply to them

If he was confused about what show he was even appearing in, he could certainly be confused about the characters' identities and relationships. Best to assume nothing until we get corroboration.
 
Mariner and Boimler aren't/weren't lovers on LD -- so the quote wouldn't apply to them
Boimler getting annoyed by whatever Mariner was into that week and vice versa seems very in character to me. They don't have to be a romantic couple for that to work.

Forgive me for bringing up race, but the idea of a black woman falling head-over-heels with a white man would strike a lot of people as racist ("Couldn't she get it on with Rutherford?")
In my day, not accepting interracial couples was considered racist.

I don't know if LD is ready to go there. The show is supposed to be a comedy (Disco gets enough grief for ITS "woke" moments).
In one sentence, depicting an interracial couple is racist. In another, it's woke. Which is it?

Suffice to say, there were people who were ready and willing to overthrow the U.S. government a few weeks ago because of race.
That's a complete non sequitur to me. What does it have to do with your assertion that depicting interracial couples is racist?
 
In my day, not accepting interracial couples was considered racist.

It depends on which side of the couple you're looking at. If a white person is unwilling to date people of other races, that's obviously racist. But if a POC character only wants to date white people, it can be taken as implying that other POCs aren't good enough, that a white person is a more desirable catch.

Although I think that's less of a problem if you have multiple POC characters in multiple kinds of relationship. The problem is generally when there's only one POC and they have to represent their entire ethnicity, so anything they do can be taken as a blanket statement. If you have multiple characters all doing different things, there's more flexibility.
 
It depends on which side of the couple you're looking at. If a white person is unwilling to date people of other races, that's obviously racist. But if a POC character only wants to date white people, it can be taken as implying that other POCs aren't good enough, that a white person is a more desirable catch.

Although I think that's less of a problem if you have multiple POC characters in multiple kinds of relationship. The problem is generally when there's only one POC and they have to represent their entire ethnicity, so anything they do can be taken as a blanket statement. If you have multiple characters all doing different things, there's more flexibility.
When it comes to who they're attracted to, people are completely entitled to their own preferences, whether or not race is an issue. But the issue here is us as observers of (the fictional depiction of) a potential interracial relationship. In that situation, I think we should err on the side of acceptance. When it's fiction, we can criticize the motivations of the creators; in real life, that's the couple's choice and nobody else's.
 
When it's fiction, we can criticize the motivations of the creators; in real life, that's the couple's choice and nobody else's.

Of course it is, but it's attitudes toward fiction, toward media portrayals of people of color, that we're talking about here. I thought that was clear enough from all my uses of the word "character."
 
It depends on which side of the couple you're looking at. If a white person is unwilling to date people of other races, that's obviously racist. But if a POC character only wants to date white people, it can be taken as implying that other POCs aren't good enough, that a white person is a more desirable catch.

Although I think that's less of a problem if you have multiple POC characters in multiple kinds of relationship. The problem is generally when there's only one POC and they have to represent their entire ethnicity, so anything they do can be taken as a blanket statement. If you have multiple characters all doing different things, there's more flexibility.
Huh?
So from that reasoning, a Black character only wanting to date another black character is racist?
Asian date an asian?
Indian date and Indian??
Etc.??
Obviously Racist?? What a load of bull..

Now towards media portrails, Show anybody can like anybody, like in real life, the goal is to be color blind and like whomever you like.
If Becky likes Brad, then hey, who cares..
 
Thank you @137th Gebirg , and sorry.

Back to topic, Read that Okana, Billy Campbell, will be on Prodigy?? Thatll be interesting, Feel like that was a waste of a good character, as said a "Harry Mudd" of Tng, but only seen him once, Could have gotten a few good comedy episodes out of him if he showed up more often, so glad we can circle back to him :)
 
Thank you @137th Gebirg , and sorry.

Back to topic, Read that Okana, Billy Campbell, will be on Prodigy?? Thatll be interesting, Feel like that was a waste of a good character, as said a "Harry Mudd" of Tng, but only seen him once, Could have gotten a few good comedy episodes out of him if he showed up more often, so glad we can circle back to him :)
That's a deep pull.
 
Thank you @137th Gebirg , and sorry.

Back to topic, Read that Okana, Billy Campbell, will be on Prodigy?? Thatll be interesting, Feel like that was a waste of a good character, as said a "Harry Mudd" of Tng, but only seen him once, Could have gotten a few good comedy episodes out of him if he showed up more often, so glad we can circle back to him :)

If this is true, and Campbell didn't mistake Prodigy for Lower Decks, then there goes the theory that Prodigy takes place in the 31st century during the Burn, and Janeway was just a hologram.
 
Plus, it seems odd to me to connect your Trek show aimed at children so closely to your Trek show featuring nudity, gore and swear words.
 
Plus, it seems odd to me to connect your Trek show aimed at children so closely to your Trek show featuring nudity, gore and swear words.

Tell that to the makers of Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures. Although for what it's worth, while both those shows crossed over with Doctor Who, and with each other in Doctor Who, they never acknowledged each other directly.

The thing about a large franchise is that not everyone is required to watch/read every part of it. Different parts are meant for different audiences, and that's okay.
 
Tell that to the makers of Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures. Although for what it's worth, while both those shows crossed over with Doctor Who, and with each other in Doctor Who, they never acknowledged each other directly.

The thing about a large franchise is that not everyone is required to watch/read every part of it. Different parts are meant for different audiences, and that's okay.
Yeah, as you said, no one watching only The Sarah Jane Adventures would be directed to Torchwood, while setting Prodigy during the Burn would certainly make people want to know the background on that. So those two aren't directly comparable.
 
Thank you @137th Gebirg , and sorry.

Back to topic, Read that Okana, Billy Campbell, will be on Prodigy?? Thatll be interesting, Feel like that was a waste of a good character, as said a "Harry Mudd" of Tng, but only seen him once, Could have gotten a few good comedy episodes out of him if he showed up more often, so glad we can circle back to him :)

It's assuming they're going to do with him what they did on TNG.

It's been over thirty years. Kurtzman may well have something different in store for Okona (Retcon?)

Trek may well be going the Pixar route (give adults something to watch alongside the kids). Sesame Street has spoofed C.S.I. Miami and Madonna ("Cereal Girl" for "Material Girl").
 
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