McCoy was basically racist. lol
News Star Trek Prodigy Cancelled, Season 2 to be shopped around
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Massively disappointed. An incredibly short sighted decision. Prodigy was an investment; something that had long term goals rather than short term pay off in mind. Some of the biggest current characters in Star Wars came from cartoons which must be what? 15-20 years old now?
They really don't know how to market these things. It was released in small chunks. They released an expensive game tie-in way too early and before the lack lustre toys we're only just now seeing.
Prodigy was at least trying to be something new. Loved the visuals. The music was some of the best I've heard out of Trek in recent years. I feel sorry for all the folks who worked so hard on this show, I hope it finds a new home for S2. I guess looking at how things are going, I can look forward to an ever more heady mix of nostalgia Trek over something new. Whoop whoop!
They really don't know how to market these things. It was released in small chunks. They released an expensive game tie-in way too early and before the lack lustre toys we're only just now seeing.
Prodigy was at least trying to be something new. Loved the visuals. The music was some of the best I've heard out of Trek in recent years. I feel sorry for all the folks who worked so hard on this show, I hope it finds a new home for S2. I guess looking at how things are going, I can look forward to an ever more heady mix of nostalgia Trek over something new. Whoop whoop!
I’m really sorry they cancelled the show: I started watching it with serious doubts but after a couple of episodes I found myself liking it a lot.
It did have issues though, most notably that it wasn’t really clear who was it made for, as it had a complex storyline but also very childish moments and an irritating tendency to ignore the geography of the Star Trek galaxy, which kinda irked many long time fans.
In any case, the multiple streaming services is bursting and a downsizing of Star Trek was expected, Picard is over, discovery is ending and it isn’t really surprising that a series with low views like this is going to end too. If they pretty much produced the second season as they say I’m confident it will eventually be released somewhere, I hope it concludes the Chakotay story.
It did have issues though, most notably that it wasn’t really clear who was it made for, as it had a complex storyline but also very childish moments and an irritating tendency to ignore the geography of the Star Trek galaxy, which kinda irked many long time fans.
In any case, the multiple streaming services is bursting and a downsizing of Star Trek was expected, Picard is over, discovery is ending and it isn’t really surprising that a series with low views like this is going to end too. If they pretty much produced the second season as they say I’m confident it will eventually be released somewhere, I hope it concludes the Chakotay story.
I was a little bemused at how races from all over the galaxy seemed to be able to pop up regardless of the distances involved. That said, when I was a kid I wasn't concerned about the shape of the Klingon Empire in relation to the Federation. It was enough to know they were out there...so that was a bit of a 'whatever works' moment for me.
If anything I would have preferred to have had less direct legacy involvement and for them not to have got tangled with Starfleet so soon. It definitely felt like it was getting a bit serious towards the end of S1. I think shows like 'My Dad the Bounty Hunter' perhaps achieved a more consistent mix between the kid/adult narrative.
It must have been a challenge, trying to write a show for kids, knowing the people most likely to engage with it upon release were going to be older fans. I think this was going to be a slow burn project for Trek and it was a mistake to move it onto Paramount+ away from a kids channel. I hope there'll be more animated outings in the future for Trek.
If anything I would have preferred to have had less direct legacy involvement and for them not to have got tangled with Starfleet so soon. It definitely felt like it was getting a bit serious towards the end of S1. I think shows like 'My Dad the Bounty Hunter' perhaps achieved a more consistent mix between the kid/adult narrative.
It must have been a challenge, trying to write a show for kids, knowing the people most likely to engage with it upon release were going to be older fans. I think this was going to be a slow burn project for Trek and it was a mistake to move it onto Paramount+ away from a kids channel. I hope there'll be more animated outings in the future for Trek.
This came up in another thread but Sisko's rank made sense to me. In TNG starbases were shown to have commanders in charge. Deep Space Nine was a backwater posting, only significant because of the wormhole.
I get your other points but this one strikes me as a nonissue.
IIRC, the "released in small chunks" had more to do with pandemic-related production delays. I'm pretty in a perfect world all twenty episodes would be released on a weekly basis. Paramount+ actually hates having split seasons, as they found they lost subscribers during the midseason hiatus during Disco's first season who didn't return when the show came back. Disco's fourth season being split was also the result of pandemic related production delays.
Granted, the obvious solution there would be to withhold the season until all episodes are ready, though my understanding is someone thought the trailers for the shows should say "2021" for Premiere date and Paramount felt obligated to do whatever necessary to meet that dead line, even if it meant splitting the seasons.
Also, even though this is just a personal theory of mine, I often wondered if the original intent was just for Sisko's title to be Commander since he was in charge of a space station and someone interpreted that literally which led to his rank being Commander. There's real world precedent, in much the same way COs of naval ships are addressed as "Captain" regardless of what their actual rank is, those in charge of a space station are addressed as "Commander" regardless of their actual rank or title. Chris Hadfield, for example was addressed as "Commander Hadfield" when he was in charge of the ISS despite his actual rank in the Canadian military being Colonel.
Only because I wasn't there.
I was sort of expecting the series to have an abbreviated run. I would have been delighted to be wrong.
Where you saw the past, I saw progress. TNG regularly has women and POC in command roles, both as ship captains and admirals, and it tried to address LGBTQ issues allegorically. DS9 had a POC and a woman in command roles, and addressed same-sex romance far more directly. Voyager also had a woman and POC in command roles, and as for not continuing with LGBTQ matters, well... consider the showrunners.
I did share the title.
While there are a handful of female guest Captains and Admirals seen throughout TNG, one of the criticisms Jeri Taylor brought up in the show's writer's room when she joined in the fifth season was that none of the women in TNG's main cast had command authority, a fact which Ron Moore admitted came as a massive embarrassment to himself and the other writers, admitting it was just something they never thought about previously. Even then, this matter would not get corrected until the sixth and seventh seasons, first with the introduction of Admiral Nechayev and establishing her to be Picard's direct superior and later with Dr. Crusher taking command of the bridge and later Deanna taking the bridge officer's exam, despite the fact that according to US Navy regulations (which were also established to be adhered to in Starfleet in TOS) medical officers should not be allowed to take command of the bridge.
DS9's handling of LGBTQ+ issues is actually extremely insulting, given the only time the acknowledge homosexuality it's in the "evil and wrong" Mirror Universe. Granted, it's possible that wasn't their intent when doing those episodes, but given their actual intent was to fetishize lesbians, that's not much of an excuse.
I just try to listen to lots of break-up sings. "Look Away", "I Saw Red", "Heartbreak Station", yes I know these selections date me in a big way... if you see romance as heartbreak that hasn't happened yet, it's easier to do without it.
Ok, yeah, forgot about that part. I admit, that was pretty bad.
I think that was their effort to write themselves out of the corner that Tasha Yar's death put them in: they only had women in "caretaker" roles. In any case, I wasn't impressed by Deanna's promotion, especially compared to Data's lack of it.
That’s not entirely fair. The mirror universe episodes just ended up fairly terrible and insulting in general by the end of the series (particularly “The Emperor’s New Cloak” which is just a piece of shit, let’s no sugarcoat it). DS9 did a good job at normalising non-heterosexual relationships in “Rejoined” and hinted more than once that Jadzia was likely bisexual. For Trek in the 90’s, and with Berman at the helm, that was a big deal. And it was greatly appreciated by 16 year old gay me at the time. I loved that there was no song and dance about it; just that love can take different forms.
Sure, but even then that was basically "woman on woman" which has traditionally been viewed on TV as the "safe gay" on account of fetishizing lesbians. On the flip side of that coin, we have Andrew Robinson, who initially interpreted Garak as gay and played him that way, until Studio Suits yelled at him to "tone it down" and eventually forced the writers to provide female love interests for him.
And DS9 didn't exactly do justice on other LGBTQ+ matters either. There's Profit and Lace, which let's be honest is extremely insulting in its depiction of gender identity.
As someone who had heartbreak again and again it definitely resonates with me. I personally prefer "Adrian" and "Wherever you will go" and "She will be loved" as well as some swing style music.
True, but we are going back 30 years (and yeah, “Profit and Lace” was grossly insulting even back then, I know). You can’t really judge what they were doing back then by today’s standards any more than you can judge 60’s Trek by today’s standards. DS9 did well in some aspects, badly in others. Like anything, it’s a product of its time, environment and culture. I still hold it in high regard because, for me, “Rejoined” far outweighed a couple of outlier trash episodes.
The good news is that fans seem to be coming out with an outpouring of support. The DVD and Blu-ray are selling out everywhere and Prodigy is in the top 10 TV series on Apple TV. This highly increases the chances that someone else will pick up Season 2, or even that Paramount+ themselves will reverse their decision.
I expect that someone will snap up Prodigy and make it available. And, if S2 is complete, they'll make that available, too. But sadly, the adventures of VADM Janeway and her plucky group up Starfleet initiates will end after S2.
Though I expect the fanfiction community will grab onto it... maybe other Treks as well. Maybe Starfleet Academy will mention the career and works of Rok-Tahk, the noted xenobiologist who was active in the 24th and 25th century.
Though I expect the fanfiction community will grab onto it... maybe other Treks as well. Maybe Starfleet Academy will mention the career and works of Rok-Tahk, the noted xenobiologist who was active in the 24th and 25th century.
Did it have low views, though? Parrot Analytics suggests that PRO is regularly in high demand.
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