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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x01/02 - "Lost and Found"

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Fun. And I think they'll be back for the cat.

I hope so. Such a cute kitty.

Sounds like the strategy used by my Uncle Joe.

Reminds me of an old cartoon from 1980, "Mighty Man and Yukk".

So.... just watched it, and it's pretty good. The characters are interesting: little girl in big rocky body, rough around the edges engineer, courageous and hopeful protagonist, cute pet, and a couple I haven't quite figured out yet. And Captain Janeway, of course.

Don't know if it will be big with non-Trekkie kids, but it should find an audience with Trekkie adults.
 
I just wondered why Starfleet never used Medusans against the Borg, but if the Medusans can build containment suits to remove the harmful effect of their presence, the Borg can probably likewise build their own shields that can do the same...

For all we know, the borg lacking a mind of their own, having only a collective consciousness were impervious to the maddening effect. Maybe if the queen saw a Medusan...
 
I know it wasn't intentional, but the optics of Gwyn abandoning her kitty cat to the slave labor prison mining outpost that she was trying to shield it from are really bad.

That Zero was telepathic caught me off-guard as well. I recently re-watched Is There in Truth no Beauty specifically for the purposes of preparing for Prodigy, and I really don't recall any mention of it there. It was Miranda Jones who was the telepath. If Kollos was telepathic, why did they need Doctor Jones?
Exactly. Spock was also presented as an alternative to Jones.

Zero is maybe a particularly gifted Medusan able to do stuff most Medusans can't.
We're talking about Dal knowing that Medusans are (allegedly) telepathic. When he learned that Zero was a Medusan, he realized that it meant Zero was telepathic.
 
Is this series just not attracting interest? We have a premiere of new Star Trek tonight and I feel like the excitement is kinda "blagh." I was seeing if there were any reviews and there really wasn't. There was an interview in Collider with Kate Mulgrew in which the interviewer said this is the first series created for kids (which is wrong since you had the animated series and a lot of fans got into TNG when they were really young, myself included)

I feel like this series is the one where people are not really all that excited for. I would have thought there would be some curiosity.

I'm excited about it it, but these shows drops at 3 A.M. my time, so I'll watch it sometime later in the day. And I want to watch it before commenting, unlike how the Interwebs generally works.
 
I watched it this morning, and I really enjoyed it. The characters are all pretty good, and we got an interesting set up with the bad guys being after the Protostar.
The only thing I'm not sure about is why there seem to be a whole bunch of Alpha/Beta Quadrant species and a Starfleet ship at a prison in the Delta Qudrant.
 
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Trek Culture's Sean gives his "ups and downs"

Sean gives no "downs".

BTW, that ear piercing "Squee!" you heard echo across the planet was my reaction upon learning they showed a fluffy-wuffy Caitian "kitten".
 
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I mean, I guess 100 years of poking around at different warp velocities could get them there but the journey seemed a bit assisted by something that was never referenced. Kind of how we're just supposed to accept based on the second TOS pilot that the S.S. Valiant reached the Galactic Barrier using just Warp 1-range engine technology from the Zefram Cochrane Era and around the year 2065 but you know that some magnetic storm or wormhole helped that ship get to the edge of the galaxy so quickly.

That was mid S7 Voyager, only about 30-40 years from the Federation. The Klingon battle cruiser took about 110 years to get there, so that sort of matches with what we saw.
 
A bit too kid oriented for me. Nothing wrong with it, for kids' entertainment. But it's not nearly as adult accessible as LD.
 
I know it wasn't intentional, but the optics of Gwyn abandoning her kitty cat to the slave labor prison mining outpost that she was trying to shield it from are really bad.

That wasn’t the optics though. “Optics” refers to how something looks in real life/in practice regardless of intent. She was literally tied up in a chair as the ship was leaving if I remember correctly. She said “no” to all entreaties to join in the escape. If she had said yes and left with no mention of the cat thing, then that would be bad optics. I’m not sure this is a valid criticism of the writing.
 
The Protostar had one chance to escape and Gwyn had to leave the young Caitian behind. Even if she hadn't been restrained in the Captain's Chair and had been a fully willing member of the escape plan going back for the Caitian wasn't viable.
 
One critique I have (and it’s something I feel about each of the new shows except LDS as well as the Kelvin films) is that it feels closer to Star Wars than to Star Trek.

Don’t get me wrong, I like it. But I also long for the days of episodes like The Measure of a Man. I think those days are gone for good and I wonder if any of the new shows will have any truly classic Trek episodes.

Pacing wise you probably won't get an episode like Measure of a Man (or its like), one of the reasons for episodes like Measure of a Man was very much due to budget. We need sit in a room and talk episodes because they are easier and cheaper to produce. It's very unlikely your going to get them in animation form.

As for live action, with Trek now getting the we are throwing money at it, and we aren't needing to fill 20-26 episodes a show, the production need for episodes like that no longer exists.

So anything that comes close is strictly going to be because the over arching story requires it. And frankly probably the closest we are going to get is something like Discovery's "If Memory Serves" or Picard's, "Nepenthe". Episodes that serve a larger purpose but are slower paced (but with still subplots for other aspects of the story included). Strange New Worlds with no long term story arcs (besides character based arcs) might come into episodes it wants to tell that are closer to the nature of something like Measure of a Man. But that for now is probably the best you can expect.
 
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Pacing wise you probably won't get an episode like Measure of a Man (or its like), one of the reasons for episodes like Measure of a Man was very much due to budget. We need sit in a room and talk episodes because they are easier and cheaper to produce. It's very unlikely your going to get them in animation form.

As for live action, with Trek now getting the we are throwing money at it, and we aren't needing to fill 20-26 episodes a show, the production need for episodes like that no longer exists.

So anything that comes close is strictly going to be because the over arching story requires it. And frankly probably the closest we are going to get is something like Discovery's "If Memory Serves" or Picard's, "Nepenthe". Episodes that serve a larger purpose but are slower paced (but with still subplots for other aspects of the story included). Strange New Worlds with no long term story arcs (besides character based arcs) might come into episodes it wants to tell that are closer to the nature of something like Measure of a Man. But that for now is probably the best you can expect.

Also this is a show for kids. While I respect kids shows that don’t underestimate their audience, I am not sure a mostly dialogue-based morality quandary with various nuances is going to appeal to the target demographic.

That said, there is a lot of potential here based on the pilot. It held my 4 year old son’s attention pretty much the whole time. He’s a bit young for this show but he likes it I think. When he first saw the protostar he asked, “is that the Enterprise?” Haha!
 
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