Though that automatically disqualifies the first two seasons of Enterprise.
Depending on your opinion, that might or might not be a good thing.
EDIT: "at some point." I can't read for sure.
Star Trek Picard is not Star Trek
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Depending on your opinion, that might or might not be a good thing.
EDIT: "at some point." I can't read for sure.
don't worry. No offence taken. I was 9 going on 10 when I first began watching TNG so there you go.
Maybe one day when I'm a little bit more stable and all I will be able to revisit the series and be able to enjoy it. One of my friends has already offered to watch it with me when I'm ready.
Because there is a lot in that show that I would be interested in.
Yes it is
The sad old relic doddering about soaking up abuse and constantly apologising for existing is not Picard either. ST:P is a terrible warning of what can happen when a series is set up as a vanity project for an actor, and that actor is then allowed to run riot in the writers' room.
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Wow, that's an incredibly ageist attitude.
Also, Star Trek: Picard is Star Trek. It's just not Star Trek the OP enjoys.
Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I dare say you've got a very different interpretation of PIC and of Sir Patrick Stewart himself, to any I have encountered.
Age has nothing to do with it. I am referring to how the character has been written and portrayed. Picard could have been 97 and kept his authority and sense of presence. A deliberate decision was made to have him be weak and bow and scrape constantly.
The vast majority of the general public who watched and liked Picard on TNG I don't believe tuned in to see him reduced in stature like he has been.
People in their 90s are not who they once were or in a position they once were. That's just part of what that age is, like it or not. At best, the perception of someone that age is "elder statesperson". Picard basically is an elder statesman by the end of the season.
He rediscovers a purpose in life but Rios is still the Captain of La Sirena and he's still retired from Starfleet. Doesn't mean he can't still make a difference in the universe, but it's in a different capacity now. Which is a much better position than where he was at the beginning of the season. The entire purpose was to take him from a low point and then bring him back up to something better.
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You called him a "sad old relic doddering about." That's ageist.
The "soaking up abuse and apologizing for existing" is just bullshit. PIC is about both confronting the ways in which Jean-Luc is blinded to his relative privilege, and about the ways in which Jean-Luc is right and he leads the Federation back into decency. That you're so upset that he's not portrayed as perfect means you can't see the parts of Jean-Luc PIC celebrates just means you have bad viewing comprehension.
And yet, makes sense from a character and psychological perspective.
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Picard's character and treatment didn't bother me at all, Starfleet thought he was a busted flush but they know better now.
I do think the individuals who fell for the Commodore's trick and abandoned the Romulan civilians should have their Starfleet career's ended, Clancy may just about get away with it as she was only a Captain at the time.
Same for those who hired her in the first place and didn't do a deep enough background and DNA check, if you think about it S31 could have been the ideal counter to the Zhat Vash but its status in 2399 is unknown.
There should also be some serious political fallout when the details become public knowledge across the Federation.
I doubt we will get any of it unless the overall plot requires it though.
I do think the individuals who fell for the Commodore's trick and abandoned the Romulan civilians should have their Starfleet career's ended, Clancy may just about get away with it as she was only a Captain at the time.
Same for those who hired her in the first place and didn't do a deep enough background and DNA check, if you think about it S31 could have been the ideal counter to the Zhat Vash but its status in 2399 is unknown.
There should also be some serious political fallout when the details become public knowledge across the Federation.
I doubt we will get any of it unless the overall plot requires it though.
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He's not in charge. He's been out of Starfleet for fourteen years.
He HAS lost some of his authority (the clerk at SFHQ didn't recognize him).
The producers have made no secret that this was not going to be TNG S8.
He is in mourning over a friend he lost 20 years earlier and the failure of the Romulan rescue armada. Most 90-something men who'd seen a dear friend die to save their life and oversaw a humanitarian effort that ended in millions if not billions dead might feel a sense of defeatism and weariness and not be the vital, energetic person they were two or three decades earlier.
Im still kinda struggling to see how this applies to Picard honestly. Picard worked his way up with his service and time on the Stargazer. He's the first in his family to go into space. TNG ends with him entering the poker game with a true sense of appreciation for his crew and the ship. In this one he walked away from that to help the Romulans. Aside from having a family vineyard I don't see how he's that privileged in the story.
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