But no one will say that about Enterprise.
Star Trek Picard is not Star Trek
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I'm afraid to search through those at the risk I might stumble across something stupid and embarrassing I posted.
Ah, memories. I was such a delightful and innocent scamp back in 2003.
This was after my "Jolene Blalock sucks and should be ashamed of herself and her character" phase which, let's face it, is my own Chuck Cunningham season of Happy Days only my Blalock posts didn't go upstairs only to never again come down.
This was after my "Jolene Blalock sucks and should be ashamed of herself and her character" phase which, let's face it, is my own Chuck Cunningham season of Happy Days only my Blalock posts didn't go upstairs only to never again come down.
I probably said something similar.
Which is dumb. Blalock is fantastic.
Which is dumb. Blalock is fantastic.
From 2001 until about 2003 I was a fan of the show but not of her. At all. I gradually warmed to her but it was a very slow process and I was, well, at times little more than a one-trick pony in the forums.
They really were that upset. There was also a mediation thread (one where I actually did weigh in). Things really were that bad. It wasn't ironic, it wasn't self-deprecating. It actually was that bad. People who were actually regulars in the ENT Forum at the time can back me up on this. Even though I didn't post there, I heard stories about the forum, through other moderators (I was a moderator at the time) and through the constant flood of threads in the Moderator Actions forum. It was notorious.
If you ever wonder why I would've wanted to put as much distance between myself and those bashers as possible -- even though I myself didn't like ENT and was no fan of Berman -- that gives you just a tiny, little bit of a taste of the reason.
I wanted nothing to do with them.
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That and also the characters were generally inferior. I liked Hoshi, but she never really got anything to do. I liked T'Pol but like half her stories felt like deliberate attempts at character assassination on the part of the writers. Tucker and Reed were utterly generic and only (barely) saved by the charisma of the actors and Mayweather and Archer were just plain terrible. Phlox was the best character on the show pretty much by default simply for having consistent writing, a good concept and a good actor. But he still felt like a generic Federation doctor most of the time. The most nuanced and well thought out character arcs in the show went to Shran and Soval, characters who only appeared in like a dozen odd episodes (That's a wild guess, I don't know the actual number except that it is obviously way fewer than anyone on the main cast).
Yes they will. They do all the time. I'm obviously not a fan, though I do certainly still consider it Star Trek because all the series are Star Trek.
But if you've never encountered any big ENT fans (or big ENT fans who hate modern Trek) then you're just not looking in the right place. They clearly do exist.
just save some of the discussion here and in the DSC forum. They'll come in handy in two decades or so
As bad as it got, the Enterprise forum of the era also had what has to be the best thread in this forum's entire history*-- The discussion thread for the fourth season episode, "Interregnum". Now that was one for the ages. It's a shame that the thread no longer exists.
*Some could argue that the "Sombrerro-prise" thread during the build up to the first Kelvin movie was the best thread ever. They would be wrong.
Damn people! some of us have been here for-freaking-ever!
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I only joined in 2009 for the new films, I missed all of the Enterprise meltdowns.
I watched all of TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise and never really had a problem with any of them, I had no issue with the films either.
I just thought that some seasons were better than others but that is always the case with long running TV shows.
I watched all of TNG, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise and never really had a problem with any of them, I had no issue with the films either.
I just thought that some seasons were better than others but that is always the case with long running TV shows.
I pretty much stayed out of the big battles back then.
I've liked ENTERPRISE from the start, so once I established that in a few posts, I figured it was prudent to sit back and mostly just watch the mayhem.
The days of high adventure.
One of the "benefits" of the YouTube Era is that those shitty videos aren't going anywhere. So their ridiculousness will be preserved for posterity.
Time will not be kind to them.
It's already not. Anyone can document the hypocrisy.
That Admiral Buzzkill guy seemed to have access to the Delorean back in 2003.
Wow. I’d forgotten just how vitriolic things were back then. Quite the trip down memory lane.
And let's not forget the Shipper wars even amongst fans of the show. Trip/T'Pol vs Archer/T'Pol. That little schism got vicious and just plain ugly at times.
That was never my cup-o-tea.
The only 'ship' I ever imagined was any of them with ME!
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I came into the Trek fandom during the ENT fandom war - it was like walking right into a minefield. I therefore remember it very well and do also not buy into the whole "everything before Kelvin Trek was REAL Star Trek" narrative that some of the same people who viciously hated on ENT are now trying to sell.
Also, I'm Archer/Tucker all the way.
Also, I'm Archer/Tucker all the way.
I've been a member of this board for so long I remember when the ENT forum was still called "Series V." And I was never a 'shipper but if I still had to pick a pairing of the series' characters it'd still be Hoshi/Travis. 
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