This is the one scene I couldn’t even remotely understand. Is it some sort of meta wink at how all Star Trek props and technobabble operate?
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This is the one scene I couldn’t even remotely understand. Is it some sort of meta wink at how all Star Trek props and technobabble operate?
This is nothing new on the internet, but if you check out a couple Gizmodo sites that operate independently of each other that both review Picard, you can see two completely different approaches to it. The AV Club reviewer is always looking for something negative to harp on, while the io9 reviewer wants to look for the positive. The latter is a lot more analytical too about what Star Trek "means."
I hope more online film and TV critics hang up their fan bias and actually approach modern shows in a more analytical way. You might not like the direction something is going in but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad. Is there precedent for it within the series? How does this new direction relate to what’s come before, or in comparison to other shows, past and present? Etc etc.
Just complaining without any real thoughtful discussion gets boring quick.
“At it’s absolute worst, Star Trek is a plaid-pants, golf course, Republican version of the future, where white men and American values always predominate (despite blatant tokenism) and gun-boat diplomacy saves the day.”
To be fair, when people who hold this type of attitude are allowed the reigns to the franchise, it results in something very far removed from the spirit of Star Trek.
And yet...the quote is from Nicholas Meyer in 1991 in an article for Omni Magazine during the then-upcoming release of ST VI: TUC.
Meyer was the one who got the TOS film franchise back in track and directed the most popular TOS film, if not most popular ST film of all time, ST II: TWOK.
I bought this old magazine in a comic shop and just read it last night. I was surprised that that particular criticism of Star Trek was made way back in 1991, and not today.
I’ve noticed a lot of YouTube critics make what seems like politically conservative arguments against modern Trek. That’s fine, if done respectfully. But they come across as ignorant to the history of Star Trek and film criticism/analysis in general. Even back then an “outsider” was making what would be considered an “SJW” criticism of Star Trek, and yet he made two of the best installments in the TOS film franchise. I found it pretty interesting and enlightening.
Criticism is fine, but provide some context and knowledge if you’re going to do it in a professional capacity.
To be fair, when people who hold this type of attitude are allowed the reigns to the franchise, it results in something very far removed from the spirit of Star Trek.
And yet...the quote is from Nicholas Meyer in 1991 in an article for Omni Magazine during the then-upcoming release of ST VI: TUC.
Meyer was the one who got the TOS film franchise back in track and directed the most popular TOS film, if not most popular ST film of all time, ST II: TWOK.
I bought this old magazine in a comic shop and just read it last night. I was surprised that that particular criticism of Star Trek was made way back in 1991, and not today.
I’ve noticed a lot of YouTube critics make what seems like politically conservative arguments against modern Trek. That’s fine, if done respectfully. But they come across as ignorant to the history of Star Trek and film criticism/analysis in general. Even back then an “outsider” was making what would be considered an “SJW” criticism of Star Trek, and yet he made two of the best installments in the TOS film franchise. I found it pretty interesting and enlightening.
Criticism is fine, but provide some context and knowledge if you’re going to do it in a professional capacity.
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Neat idea!
I thought it was a Chekov's Gun thingie which will be used to fix something... Picard, the Borg cube, the Admonition device...?
That, or the producers' idea of a deus ex machina that they may not have had a full idea of how it was going to work in the season finale or Season 2. Introduce the prop now. Fill in the blanks later.
Ooooooooor they aren't human and don't think like humans. I know that's a rarity in Star Trek, but still...
I don't know if I agree with this. Though I like DSC and PIC the same, on balance, I have to say that I think PIC is more put-together. I don't think Michael Chabon would have something introduced without having at least some idea of what they'll do with it later. He's more thorough than that.
Call it DSC Trauma Syndrome. 
Let's hope that's what Chabon and the writers were thinking!
Synthetics go insane from the Admonition too. Only cats truly understand.
“Life begets life. Bipeds reproduce. The universe is marred. Time is stained by their constrained physicality and heedless sentience. We are an alliance of disgruntled felines located at the far edge of the furthest food bowl. Find us and we will meow.”
I'm not sure if this has been talked about yet, but is anyone else waiting for the unknown artificial life forms from the original movie to show up next episode? I mean I feel like they've been hunting all season and this last episode strait up references them being at the edge of space like the race referenced in the movie. Could we meet V'ger again in it's new state?
PIC is a frustrating experience for me.
The show has a lot of elements of a good story and theme, dissecting what makes a utopia and what you'd sacrifice to keep safe, but it's just not pulling together in a captivating yarn. I can see what Chabon is trying to do. It's just not translating well dramatically on screen.
The show has a lot of elements of a good story and theme, dissecting what makes a utopia and what you'd sacrifice to keep safe, but it's just not pulling together in a captivating yarn. I can see what Chabon is trying to do. It's just not translating well dramatically on screen.
I like the idea of malevolent Reaper type AIs, but as the Husnock found out, the evil AI beings could attract the attention of god like beings that could snap them out of existence, even if the look many steps up the foodchain above the Husnock....
Chabon got lots of cool ideas, but this show in parts feels a bit odd and out of place (like The Motion Picture).
Chabon got lots of cool ideas, but this show in parts feels a bit odd and out of place (like The Motion Picture).
"Hey, Dahj, see this data I just found about the old M5 multitronic computer from the 23rd century?"
[*Falls down on floor asleep*]
"Look, if I'm that boring just tell me...bye, then."
[*Falls down on floor asleep*]
"Look, if I'm that boring just tell me...bye, then."
"This is your day to shine!"
[*THUD*]
[*THUD*]
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