Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Tuskin38, Sep 28, 2019.

  1. DaveyNY

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    Perhaps folks weren't so GD picky about something they have no control over and perhaps we were just grateful they they continued to make episodes and movies for something that we thought was done in 1969 for the next 50 some-odd years.

    Perhaps if one doesn't like it, one should find something else to entertain themselves with that one does like.
     
  2. fireproof78

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    No...that's not it...
     
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  3. DaddlerTheDalek

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    Like good old Zefram. :lol:
     
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  4. cooleddie74

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    Don't try to be a great producer. Just be a producer. And let your bank account make its judgments.
     
  5. Racefuel

    Racefuel Commodore Commodore

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    I was there, we didn’t.
     
  6. Dee1891

    Dee1891 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Or perhaps they have every right to express displeasure at something they found disappointing or simply disliked.
     
  7. Dee1891

    Dee1891 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yeah, we did.
     
  8. SeamusShameless

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    I wonder what Starfleet's protocol is for determining whether a one star admiral is called a Commodore or a Rear Admiral (Lower Half). Geordi is a Commodore, Beverly is an Admiral, but they wear the same rank device. Maybe it's up to personal preference?
     
  9. Sci

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    I think the idea is that they've always been called Commodores and we're retconning away the whole thing where they started calling them Rear Admiral Lower Half. It was kind of a stupid idea in the first place.
     
  10. Tomalak

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    Commodore just sounds cool.

    I think there was a policy change in the mid-24th century because the then Starfleet C-in-C really hated Lionel Richie.

    This anti-commodore rule has now been relaxed.
     
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  11. SeamusShameless

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    But in "The Last Generation", Beverly is called Admiral, not Commodore.
     
  12. Happenstance

    Happenstance Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    This season may have been a bit too fan-servicey for some but for me it's just been like a big Star Trek hug and exactly what I needed right now.
     
  13. Sci

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    So?
     
  14. valkyrie013

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    Maybe what Billet they are in? Geordi was technically in charge of a fleet, why he's a commodore while Bev is in charge of a desk at Medical.
    Something like USMC Rank, after E7 you can go Master Sargent or First Sargent, depending what line of work/promotion you want.
     
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  15. Tallguy

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    I'm not a hater, I'm not. People like things. As I've said (and will again) I love it when people like stuff. Even stuff I don't like! I would probably just accept it as 10 episodes of TV that kept me mostly entertained (WORF! WORF! WORF!) but I'm hearing this hailed as "Star Trek finally done right". Or "This makes up for the last two seasons." Or even "This is the apology for Nemesis." Have you lost your Vulcan mind?

    The D was lovely. She was underappreciated even back in the day. Frakes and Sertis were marvelous (except when poor Will's dummy card came up.) I cannot gush about Worf enough. (I wanted him to mention Jadzia SO much. Just say her name? Pleeeeeease?) I may have discovered that there is such a thing as too much Goldsmith. (I know!) But the music was wonderful anyway.

    Picard has taught me an interesting lesson. I don't love spaceships. I don't love cool sets and brilliant futuristic design. (I mean, I DO.)

    I love Starfleet. I love the people that are in it and work in it and make it go. I love smart people doing their jobs to do really cool things. I might have problems with Disco but it does that. I have no problems with SNW and it does that like crazy (even if it's not as formal as TOS or even TNG were).

    Picard was a mess in this department. I am amazed that I enjoyed it as much as I did. And I did. But not as good Star Trek. It was a vehicle to bring back actors we liked and let them do... Stuff.

    I wanted to like Shaw so much. I wanted him to be the new Jellico. But he never acted like he could get a crew to go to 7-11 for smokes. When he showed up in Ten Forward the crew acted like "Does anyone know who this guy is?" And at the end we're supposed to love him because he was smart enough to not hate 7 of 9?

    You can't make a major underpinning of the show "love of family and our connections and the loss they can bring" and then write off Will and Deanna's REMAINING KID. Is she hanging out with Chuck Cunningham?

    Why are we shocked that Elizabeth Shelby would make the entire fleet ready made for the Borg? Because she wouldn't! Even TV writers could see it was a single point of failure, let alone the finest strategic minds in the Federation.

    It was a big ask to believe that James Kirk and his Merry Band could walk off with a whole starship. Now Geordi LaForge has his own Matchbox collection that apparently nobody visits or knows about?

    This was 10 episodes of a bunch of TV stuff. Two months to Strange New Worlds!
     
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  16. fireproof78

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    Probably determined by billet and the unit commanded.
     
  17. DaveyNY

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    Yeah, because 'entitlement' is such a great way to live ones life.
    :rolleyes:
     
  18. Tallguy

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    I can't think of a Star Trek show that fans did not bitch about. I'd say Wrath of Khan but I know people who hated that one too. (I wasn't around for TOS' first run.)
     
  19. fireproof78

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    Spock's Brain springs immediately to mind. Turnabout Intruder too. Actually., much of TOS Season 3.
     
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  20. Tallguy

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    If I'm not entitled to complain about Star Trek then what am I even HERE for?!? ;)
     
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