Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Looking back on TNG and the utterly pathetic episodes in S1 and the clip show finale for S2, the have a strong precedent for wasting 2 seasons.

 

I thought every minute with Ro was awesome. I was surprised, confused how she was in Starfleet, wondering if she was a changeling, liking it when Picard pulled the phaser and how she was the one to stand down. The whole confrontation and ultimate ending was a great end for the character.

 

A shame? Not at all. It's a well told story, leaving the audience wanting more.

There is no shame in that!

Absolutely!

 

Wasn't a criticism just an observation. But admittedly, I may be suffering from a version of color blindness (my week ability to recognize similar likeliness between people)

 

I can see where you're coming from but I do not see the similarity. Though, Ro's presence reminded me of someone else that I can't quite place.

 

Looked more like Admiral Cain to me.

 

I think we should all remember that Matalas said that Vadic and her group have sympathetic reasons for doing what they do. As destroying a Starfleet recruitment center and impersonating whole swaths of Starfleet are horrific actions in themselves, for Matalas to make that kind of statement in regards to the changelings means the Federation must have done something really, really, really bad for anyone to remotely sympathize with Vadic and the Changelings.

 

I thought he said just Vadic did?

 

I gave that expectation up in 1973 when TAS premiered, and the feeling was reinforced in 1979 when ST:TMP hit theatres. You're a bit late IMO.

 

Maybe. I'll have to find the quote.

Picard Season 3 is one of the rare examples of magnificent execution, acting, direction, and dialogue elevating what is frankly a terrible story so far.

If the guys behind Picard Season 3 had worked with George Lucas on the prequels 20 years ago (which actually had a very good story under the bad execution and clunky dialogue), they would be considered cinematic masterpieces.

If we had Anakin lay out to Obi-Wan his legitimate grievances with the Jedi Order the way Ro did about Starfleet in this episode, it would have made a world of difference.

 

Could it be that the Changelings who remained in the AQ were never cured or the S31 engineered illness and had to get into bed with someone else?

 

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But at least it wasn't a fridging. If Ro gets to go out this way, I'd trust this team to kill off a TNG opening credits character with care. Imagine how Michael Chabon would have done it in contrast...

 

I thought we were harsh nitpickers on here, but Armin Shimmerman asked on Twitter today how the Intrepid's nacelle was openly burning in space without oxygen. I'm ashamed as someone with a Physics degree that Quark caught this before me.

https://twitter.com/ShimermanArmin/status/1636818580305244161?t=Gh62zJizs3tkFmgRRcd_3g&s=19

 

It's still supplied with warp plasma - the Reliant also kept sizzling sparks

 

It's the kind of thing that happens in almost all space franchises. The Super Star Destroyer Executor burned like a bonfire after it collided into the surface of the second Death Star.

 

Kinda sounds like the opposite of what Marilu Henner has - She can look at photo of a person as a small child and name who they are as an adult. She also has hyperthymesia.

 

I think the stuff that is burning is plasma and oxygen etc that is coming from the ship. That's how I've always seen it whenever this happens, if a ships exterior is on fire then I assume there is a leak of a flammable substance of some type. And that shot was awesome, I knew they were going to get away but I was still tense that they'd take at least a single shot from a torpedo.

 

Someone mentioned (not sure if it was here or I heard it someplace else) that Jack Crusher might have a Pah Wraith living in him. Not something that would have occurred to me, but the red eyes do match, and it fits the Dominion narrative. What if their end goal is to retrieve the Dominion fleet that the Wormhole aliens kindly removed during the war? 1000 ships just dumped onto an unprepared Starfleet would wreck havoc, and as far as those Jem'Hadar would be concerned the war is still on.

 

I find it fascinating that a villain from another Star Trek series (DS9) has been put in here to face Picard and his crew instead of another old foe from his TNG days! Although Lore and Moriarty haven't turned up yet!!! It's a bit like Trelane from TOS being put into the new Captain Pike show, although that would screw with the continuity! We only heard of the Enterprise facing the Jem Hadar and the Dominion from comments made in the movies and in Picard itself due to TNG being off the air at the time but it's like Superman fighting the Joker or Batman against Lex Luthor...
JB